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karenmcc
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Post by karenmcc » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:51 pm

Hi again,

There is also JAMES GRAHAM (26 son of JAMES GRAHAM and JANE ARRIES) m. AGNES CLARK (25) 05 oct 1866 Edinburgh. This is a submitted entry on the IGI.

Karen Mc Cubbin
Lochiel, McKinlay, McGibbon/McCubbin, Cunningham, McDougall, Burnside - Lanarkshire->Ayrshire.
Hay, Hannah, - Kirkcudbright.
McIntosh, McQuaters/McWatters, White, - Kilmarnock
Murdoch, Hope, McMillan - Muirkirk

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:16 pm

Hi Mags

Just to show you the spelling variations and locales in Scotland of the records from the BIVRI Disks....

AIRIS, Robert Bir 1621 Scot Midl Invere
Fa: Mark AIRIS
Mo:
ARRES, Helene Chr 1640 Scot Roxb Jedbur
Fa: William ARRES
Mo:
ARRES, Jhone Chr 1644 Scot Roxb Jedbur
Fa: William ARRES
Mo:
AIRIS, William Bir 1697 Scot Midl Invere
Fa: William AIRIS
Mo: Violat MITCHIL
AIRIS, Agnes Bir 1701 Scot Midl Invere
Fa: William AIRIS
Mo: Violat MITCHILL
AIRIS, Thomas Bir 1701 Scot Midl Invere
Fa: Thomas AIRIS
Mo: Anna MERSTON
ARES, Jannet Chr 1702 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: John ARES
Mo:
ARRIS, James Chr 1710 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARRIS
Mo:
ARRIS, Agnes Chr 1717 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARRIS
Mo:
ARIS, John Chr 1720 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARIS
Mo:
ARIS, George Chr 1722 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARIS
Mo:
ARIS, Jannet Chr 1722 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARIS
Mo:
ARIS, Andrew Chr 1723 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARIS
Mo:
ARIS, William Chr 1725 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARIS
Mo:
ARIS, Robert Chr 1727 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARIS
Mo:
ARRIS, George Chr 1731 Scot Roxb Eckfor
Fa: Robert ARRIS
Mo:
AIRIS, William Bir 1767 Scot Midl Invere
Fa: Mark AIRIS
Mo: Janet SUTTER
ARRES, John Bir 1777 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ARRES, William Bir 1778 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ERAS, Robert Bir 1778 Scot Midl SouLei
Fa: Patrick ERAS
Mo: Isabel AITON
ERAS, Mark Bir 1779 Scot Midl SouLei
Fa: Peter ERAS
Mo: Isabel ATON
ARRES, Robert Bir 1780 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ERAS, Isabel Bir 1781 Scot Midl SouLei
Fa: Peter ERAS
Mo: Isabel AITON
ARRES, Thomas Bir 1782 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ARRES, Janet Bir 1784 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ARRES, Isabell Chr 1786 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ARRES, Joan Chr 1787 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo:
ARRES, Adam Chr 1788 Scot Roxb Lillie
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo:
ARRAS, John Bir 1793 Scot Roxb Ancrum
Fa: John ARRAS
Mo:
ARRES, Adam Bir 1793 Scot Selk Galash
Fa: Robert ARRES
Mo: Agnes COCHRAN
ARRIS, Janet Bir 1800 Scot Berw Coldst
Fa: Robert ARRIS
Mo:
ARRES, James Bir 1801 Scot Roxb Roxbur
Fa: John ARRES
Mo:
ARRAS, Isabel Bir 1803 Scot Roxb Roxbur
Fa: John ARRAS
Mo:
ARRAS, Isabell Bir 1803 Scot Roxb Linton
Fa: Robert ARRAS
Mo: Joan ALEXANDER
ARRASS, George Bir 1806 Scot Roxb Kelso
Fa: Robert ARRASS
Mo: Joan ALEXANDER
ARRAS, Ogilvie Bir 1807 Scot Roxb Roxbur
Fa: John ARRAS
Mo:
AIRIS, Helen Bir 1808 Scot Roxb Sprous
Fa: Robert AIRIS
Mo: Joan ALEXANDER
AIRIS, Agness Bir 1811 Scot Roxb Sprous
Fa: Robert AIRIS
Mo: Joan ALEXANDER
ARRAS, William Bir 1813 Scot Selk Selkir
Fa: Robert ARRAS
Mo: Janet WALKER
ARIS, Helen Bir 1830 Scot Stir Muirav
Fa: Samuel ARIS
Mo: Margaret YOUNG
ARRAS, Elizabeth Brown Bir 1831 Scot Roxb Linton
Fa: William ARRAS
Mo: Elspeth BROWN
ARRES, Agnes Bir 1834 Scot Roxb Linton
Fa: William ARRES
Mo: Elspeth BROWN
ARRES, John Bir 1836 Scot Roxb Roxbur
Fa: William ARRES
Mo: Elspeth BROWN
ARIS, Elizabeth Bir 1838 Scot Midl Edinbu
Fa: Samuel ARIS
Mo: Charlotte HAMILTON
ARRES, James Bir 1839 Scot Roxb Roxbur
Fa: William ARRES
Mo: Elspeth BROWN
ARRES, William Bir 1839 Scot Roxb Roxbur
Fa: William ARRES
Mo: Elspeth BROWN
ARIS, Robert Hamilton Bir 1841 Scot Midl Edinbu
Fa: Samuel ARIS
Mo: Charlotte HAMILTON
ARIS, John Bir 1843 Scot Midl SouLei
Fa: Samuel ARIS
Mo: Charlotte HAMILTON
ARRES, Ann Margaret Bir 1843 Scot Roxb Hobkir
Fa: Alexander ARRES
Mo: Margaret GLASS
ARIS, Charles Douglas Bir 1844 Scot Argy Killar
Fa: Samuel ARIS
Mo: Charlotte HAMILTON

While no means comprehensive this listing clearly shows a snapshot of the presence of the surname in Roxburgh, Selkirk and MidLothian mostly.....and since the 1600's! Unfortunately no reference to a "Mansfield" anywhere here :(

Best wishes
Jean

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:35 pm

Hmmmm......me again

If you search for the death of Jane Arris Graham you'll find her in 1864 and also discover she had married for a second time. This states who her parents were and If I'm reading her mum's mn corrrectly then it's possible this Jane has connections to the Ogilvie Arras born in 1807 from the listing I just gave above???? Is that what I'm seeing??????? Were you also under the impression Jane was a sister to your Mansfield???? :-k

Best wishes
Jean

karenmcc
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Post by karenmcc » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:04 am

Hi,

Back again. I found this interesting. On the IGI there are 4 children listed for Mansfield ARRIES and Cecily HOPE. This is submitted information. The children are JOHN c1810,ALEXANDER c1812, JANE c1813 and female c1815. There is an extracted birth for a CECILY HOPE b 04 MAR 1786 United Presbyterian Cheviot Street-Nc, Wooler, Northumberland, England. Her parents are ALEXR. HOPE and JANE, which are names your Mansfield and Cecily have called their children. Mayby the researcher who has submitted the information has made a few assumptions with things they were unsure of.

I would go back to the info I KNOW to be correct and mayby the good folk on here could help sort things out.

Karen McCubbin
Lochiel, McKinlay, McGibbon/McCubbin, Cunningham, McDougall, Burnside - Lanarkshire->Ayrshire.
Hay, Hannah, - Kirkcudbright.
McIntosh, McQuaters/McWatters, White, - Kilmarnock
Murdoch, Hope, McMillan - Muirkirk

magspattison
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Post by magspattison » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:43 am

Hi Karen
Thank you so much for the information you have given me,Mathew Mansfield married twice, he married Cecily and had 4 children with her one of whom John is my 3x grt grandfather. Cecily died in childbirth in 1815, Mansfield
Married Jane Hall Davison, they also had 4 children. Mansfield and jane emigrated to America with their children in 1841.
The Jane Arries married to Graham is Mansfield and Cecily's daughter.
At last i have a place to start from with Mansfield and Janes marriage.
thank you again
margaret
looking for Arries

magspattison
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Post by magspattison » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:00 am

Hi Jean
Jane was Mansfields daughter from his first marriage to Cecily Hope, I think i have my work cut out searching all the variations of my name.
Where would i find the info on Jane's death? i'm not familiar with the Scottish sites yet , i found this message board by chance and i'm so glad i did I have found out more about the Scottish side of my family in the last few days than in the 2 years i have been researching. so thanks again for all your help
Margaret
looking for Arries

bsywetz
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Re: please help

Post by bsywetz » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:29 pm

I am also looking for information about John Arris or Arrise. I have some information about the Arries family. A history of Otsego County, NY, tells the story of Alexander Arrise, born in Yetholm around 1810. He emigrated and lived in Morris, NY. According to the history, his father Matthew Mansfield Arries, Sr. was the son of John Arries, a blacksmith who married a woman named Wright. Matthew Mansfield came to Burlington, NY in 1842, worked for a few years and then moved west. He died in Lodi, WI.
I have an obituary for one of his sons, Archibald Arries, that says he was born in a house that spanned the Scotland-Northumberland border, Yetholm.
My 3rd great-grandmother was Isabella Aris, also from the same area in Northumberland. She was a contemporary of Matthew Mansfield Arries, Sr. and married William Curry. They also emigrated to Burlington in 1849. I would like to know if she was related to the Arries family. My grandmother kept the obituary of Archibald, which makes me suspect there was a family connection.

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Re: please help

Post by Russell » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:48 pm

Hi there and an extremely warm welcome to [talkingscot]
Although this is an old post we never consider any post closed because few of us can consider our researches complete and any snippets of information can prove the sledge hammer to break down some of our brick walls.
Magspattison still visits TalkingScot so she will no doubt get notification of your post and be in touch.
It's very satisfying to us when new information helps bring together the widespread family links :D

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

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