BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpathia

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BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpathia

Post by q98929 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:01 am

Seeking any/all information regarding the following family:
Passenger list: S.S. Carpathia, Liverpool - Boston, USA, arrived 16 Feb 1913:
BELL
Mary Jane McIndoe (m.s. MARSHALL), age 54, widow, Race: Scottish, born England, destination Toronto, Ontario, occupation: Housekeeper in UK, intended occupation Housekeeper in Canada. (It is believed Mary died 1935 in Toronto).
Florence (Craddock), age 32, single, Race: Scottish, born England, destination Toronto, Ontario, occupation UK: Civil Service, occupation Canada: undecided.
Agnes (Effie), age 30 and 3/4, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination Toronto, occupation UK: Civil Service, occupation Canada: undecided.
William (Henry), age 29, single, lived in Toronto, Canada, for the last 10 years, born in England, shows he was a visitor to England previously, occupation Contractor. It is believed he arrived in Canada initially circa 1906.
Leonard (Charles), age 20, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination:Toronto, occupation: student in UK and undecided in Canada. [Leonard returned to Britain and enlisted in British Army 04 Sep 1915. His return certainly occured during period 16 Feb1913 - 04 Sep 1915. He retired a Brigadier, awarded Military Cross].
Gertrude (Mary), age 18, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation: Student in UK, will be student in Canada.
Cecil (Grenville/Granville), age 16, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation in UK: Student and will be student in Canada. (Enlisted Canadian Army, date unknown.)
Marjorie (Gertrude), age 14 and 10/12, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation in UK: Student and will be student in Canada.
Doris (Margaret), age 11 and a half, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation in UK: Student and will be in Canada.

I have located marriages for William Henry (May 1914, York, Toronto), Cecil Grenville/Granville (Dec 1915, York, Toronto), Robert Allan (Jul 1913, York, Toronto), Richard T (should be Richard John, Feb 1907, Guelph, Toronto) but neither Births for the aforementioned Marriages nor Marriages for the sisters.
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Re: BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpat

Post by SarahND » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:47 pm

Hello q98 and [TS_welcome]

Are you looking to go backwards as well as forwards in time? Just wondering whether you have the births, etc, in Scotland and England. Due to our cut-off times for discussion on the public forum, we might be able to find a few births for those marriages in the early years, but not all:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6601
If the sisters did marry, however, they would presumably have married early enough to post.

All the best,
Sarah

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Re: BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpat

Post by q98929 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:02 pm

My specific interest is Leonard Charles BELL and, as I have sufficient data on the remaining family members, moving forward with him.
Brigadier Leonard Charles BELL M.C.
DOB: 28 Dec 1891, Epping, Sussex
Death Registered: Dec Qtr 1976
Registration district: Hastings, East Sussex.
No Obituaries, Death or Funereal Notices, etc. were located in the Hastings Observer for Oct - Dec 1976. In the 1972 Street Directory, a Leonard C Bell was noted resident at Willow Lodge, Hastings Road, Battle.

Military Service:
Initially commissioned 05 Sep 1915 and awarded the Military Cross in 1917. Travelled to India Nov 1917 and attached to Indian Army 13 Jan 1918. Served with 12th (Kelat-i-Ghilzie) Pioneers. Lt. L.C. Bell, Black Watch probationer for Indian Army, reverted to British Service at own request and was posted to 2/4th Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment, w/e 21 Mar 1919.

Military Cross (M.C.)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/ ... 86/page/37
Other Medals/Remarks listed/noted:
India General Service Medal and Clasp Afghanistan North West Frontier 1919
Emblems issued IV 656/ED.26.7.20 NW/5/4499
"Stated to have served in Afghan as Lieutenant Black Watch, Regimentally with 36th Div Coy (now "E" Div Signals) from 16-5-19 to 1-8-19. 100/Gen/7244".

I have the family in the following Census: 1861, 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911 and 1921 Canadian. Most of them emigrated to Canada via the U.S. onboard S.S.Carpathia, Liverpool - Boston, USA, arriving 16 February 1913. Leonard Charles BELL was noted on the Passenger Manifest, Age 20 Years. He returned to Britain some time during period Feb 1913 - Sep 1915, when he joined the British Army.

Irene BELL (b. 10 Nov 1914, York County d. 31 Mar 2008, Stayner, Simcoe County, Ontario, Age 93 Years) d/o Robert and
Esther (m.s. WINDER) BELL. Irene married John Henry WEECH (1914 - 1983) on 30 Aug 1940, Weston, York County, Ontario.

Searching from Australia, I am unable to locate any marriage or children for Brigadier Leonard C. BELL and would gratefully accept any assistance.
q98929
Fremantle
Western Australia