Hi,
My name is katrina and I live in Hagley Tasmania Australia.
I have several Scottish ancestors, but the one I am asking about is
Elizabeth Ballantyne (Various spellings) who married a SUMMERS(again various spellings they had a son william or John William He arrived free in Tasmania on The "Arab" in 1842, the family believe he had Sommerset Connections as he called his home FROME Farm. He was my Grandfather's father He was in his early 20's when he arrived.
Is there sks who can help me
Ballentine Summers marriage scotland
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Anne H
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Hi Katrina,
Welcome to TalkingScot.![[scotland-flag]](./images/smilies/scotland-happy.gif "[scotland-flag]")
I'm sure someone will come along later and help you with your query.
In the meantime, have you checked out any of the John's or Williams on Family Search...there are plenty of them but I haven't come across any with the mother's name of Elizabeth Ballantyne?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ ... _form=true
Regards,
Anne H
Welcome to TalkingScot.
I'm sure someone will come along later and help you with your query.
In the meantime, have you checked out any of the John's or Williams on Family Search...there are plenty of them but I haven't come across any with the mother's name of Elizabeth Ballantyne?http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ ... _form=true
Regards,
Anne H
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Hello Katrina,
There’s a Frome Farm mentioned in this 1812 Google Book http://books.google.com.au/books?id=6Bg ... 2&as_brr=1 which appears to have been a sheep farm run by a Mr Henning near Dorchester in Dorsett. Dorsett is on the mid South coast of England and the next County to the North is Somerset. Frome Farm appears to be still a going concern and has been in the past quite a well known establishment.
There’s a Town called Frome in Somerset so the likely area you’re looking at is a fairly compact one. If he travelled direct to Tasmania and arrived in 1842 he was probably still in England at the time of the 1841 census. That may be worth a look in those areas.
For the Frome, Somerset, area there may be something useful here http://www.gomezsmart.myzen.co.uk/
Was he married before or after he came to Australia? If before, what were his wife’s details and those of any kids born before departure. Do you know whether Somerset was part of the family story or was this assumed because of the mention of Frome Farm? (Tasmania BDM registrations started 1838 but I think MCs and DCs only included parents and birthplaces from around 1900. I guess he probably died before that.)
I have to shut down for the night but will have another look tomorrow.
All the best,
Alan
There’s a Frome Farm mentioned in this 1812 Google Book http://books.google.com.au/books?id=6Bg ... 2&as_brr=1 which appears to have been a sheep farm run by a Mr Henning near Dorchester in Dorsett. Dorsett is on the mid South coast of England and the next County to the North is Somerset. Frome Farm appears to be still a going concern and has been in the past quite a well known establishment.
There’s a Town called Frome in Somerset so the likely area you’re looking at is a fairly compact one. If he travelled direct to Tasmania and arrived in 1842 he was probably still in England at the time of the 1841 census. That may be worth a look in those areas.
For the Frome, Somerset, area there may be something useful here http://www.gomezsmart.myzen.co.uk/
Was he married before or after he came to Australia? If before, what were his wife’s details and those of any kids born before departure. Do you know whether Somerset was part of the family story or was this assumed because of the mention of Frome Farm? (Tasmania BDM registrations started 1838 but I think MCs and DCs only included parents and birthplaces from around 1900. I guess he probably died before that.)
I have to shut down for the night but will have another look tomorrow.
All the best,
Alan
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Currie
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Katrina,
Just a link to your other post to save any duplication of effort.
viewtopic.php?t=12276
Alan
Just a link to your other post to save any duplication of effort.
viewtopic.php?t=12276
Alan
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katrina
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summers ballantyne
thanks, I have had a poke around these sites and they do offer options I had not seen. The passenger list of "The "Arab", does indicate he said his native place was Dorset. We have always thought this was where he was living/working there at the time of requirtment.
He arrived single in Tasmania in 1842 aged around 21. In later years he called his home Frome Farm . It was my grandfather his son who said of the Ballentyne connection, he also met a cousin in the Boer War from U.K.
I have also seen a family file on the net years and several computers ago which was of his family and confirmed his parents marriage in Scotland, but I have not been able to find it again.
He arrived single in Tasmania in 1842 aged around 21. In later years he called his home Frome Farm . It was my grandfather his son who said of the Ballentyne connection, he also met a cousin in the Boer War from U.K.
I have also seen a family file on the net years and several computers ago which was of his family and confirmed his parents marriage in Scotland, but I have not been able to find it again.
k.j.t.
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Katrina,
As far as I know “native place” means literally “birth place”. If there is no evidence to the contrary it seems reasonable to accept that he was born in Dorset. Did you mean that he put a name plate on his house with the words “Frome Farm”? If that’s the case, and his property wasn’t a farm (and even if it was) it could indicate a strong sentimental attachment to a place of the same name, maybe the farm near Dorchester.
He may show up in the 1841 census, in Dorset or elsewhere. According to Ancestry there’s a John Summers b.1819, and a William Summers b.1821 born and living somewhere in Dorset.
The closest I can see to a Scottish marriage on SP is an 1811 one in Peebles of an Elisabeth Ballantine to a George Sumerville. It is also on the IGI along with children Jean 1813, Elisabeth 1816 and Andrew 1818.
Frome Farm near Dorchester appears to have been run by a Mr Henning at least until the mid 1830s. Maybe it is the same as Coker’s Frome near Dorchester where a farm has been operated by the Mayo family since at least the late 1860s and still is today.
1950s map
http://www.oldemaps.co.uk/Dorchester-map-2.jpg
Hope this helps,
Alan
As far as I know “native place” means literally “birth place”. If there is no evidence to the contrary it seems reasonable to accept that he was born in Dorset. Did you mean that he put a name plate on his house with the words “Frome Farm”? If that’s the case, and his property wasn’t a farm (and even if it was) it could indicate a strong sentimental attachment to a place of the same name, maybe the farm near Dorchester.
He may show up in the 1841 census, in Dorset or elsewhere. According to Ancestry there’s a John Summers b.1819, and a William Summers b.1821 born and living somewhere in Dorset.
The closest I can see to a Scottish marriage on SP is an 1811 one in Peebles of an Elisabeth Ballantine to a George Sumerville. It is also on the IGI along with children Jean 1813, Elisabeth 1816 and Andrew 1818.
Frome Farm near Dorchester appears to have been run by a Mr Henning at least until the mid 1830s. Maybe it is the same as Coker’s Frome near Dorchester where a farm has been operated by the Mayo family since at least the late 1860s and still is today.
1950s map
http://www.oldemaps.co.uk/Dorchester-map-2.jpg
Hope this helps,
Alan
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