The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

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ggrocott
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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by ggrocott » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:07 pm

I think I might have found John Simpson born 1847 Consett son of William and Helen Mutch. I think he married Isabella or Arabella Bates

John Simpson
GENDER: Male
AGE: 24
BIRTH DATE: 1846
MARRIAGE DATE: 29 Jan 1870
MARRIAGE PLACE: Lanchester, Durham, England
FATHER: William Simpson
SPOUSE: Isabella Bates


1871 Middlesborough

John Simpson 24
Arabella Simpson 20 born Middlesborough
Ellinor Simpson 1 born Durham
Sarah A Simpson 3 Months born Middlesborough

1881 Consett
John Simpson 32 ironworker born Consett
Arabell Simpson 29 born Middlesborough, Yorks
Ellen Simpson 11 born West Hartlepool
Sarah J. Simpson 10 born Middlesborough
Mary Simpson 6 born West Harlepool
William R. Simpson 4 born Middlesborough
Harriet Simpson 1 born Consett

1891 Gateshead
John Simpson 44 born Consett Durham, general labourer
Arabella Simpson 39 born Middlesborough, Yorks
Wm Robt Simpson 14 born Middlesborough, Yorks
Elizth Ann Simpson 2 born Hartlepool Durham

1901 Gatehead
John Simpson 54 caller up born Consett
Isabella Simpson 49 born Middlesborough
Elizabeth A Simpson 12 born West Hartlepool

bolemo
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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by bolemo » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:35 am

Bates… Sounds familiar. Looks like you found John.

I realized that in 1841, Ellen Mutch and kids are in Bishopwearmouth (William is not there for the Census), a few pages away in the Census from the John Simpson you found… So it becomes very likely that it is him and that they moved together or one followed the other.

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by ggrocott » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:35 am

Hello again still searching.

Adding to the story of Isabella Simpson nee Barclay, what do you think!

'Isabella Barclay (Simpson)
Buried = 7th Feb 1848 aged 29 in Howff Cemetary
Born = Leuchars, Fife.
Wife of =George Simpson (foreman)
Cause of death = Effects from a fall from falling down a stair.
Address = Butter's close,West port,Dundee'

Gill

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by bolemo » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:52 pm

Hello,

It's been a while.
We are also still searching, on and off.

It is wonderful that you found (I presume) Isabella's Death Certificate. We could not find anything about her death and Georges death (for him somewhere between 1868 and 1871).
Do you have the reference for her Death Certificate ?

Thank you for sharing,

Gabriel

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by ggrocott » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:32 pm

Hiya,

I haven't got her death cert - yet - that is what I am going to look for next. The snippet below came from a contact on Rootschat. com in response to an appeal for info re. her parents which has also produced this

'I wonder if this might be Isabella on SP.

ISABELLA BARCLAY 29/07/1818 Leuchars
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT

They married there 13/07/1816'

I had already got these as possible parents but it is looking ever more likely!

There is a death

SIMPSON, GEORGE age
58 GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DARLINGTON UNION Volume 10A Page 6

That could be George, but haven't investigated further. Will let you know if I find anything more!

Gill

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by ggrocott » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:54 pm

Baptisms of possible siblings all at Leuchars

BARCLAY
JAMES
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR485 (FR485)
M
22/05/1834


BARCLAY
DAVID
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR417 (FR417)
M
12/08/1820

BARCLAY
JOHN
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR446 (FR446)
M
08/07/1832

BARCLAY
ROBERT
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR422 (FR422)
M
24/06/1822

BARCLAY
WILLIAM
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR434 (FR434)
M
30/12/1828

and here is Isabella
BARCLAY
ISABELLA
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT
F
29/07/1818

BARCLAY
MARGARET LENNOX
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR441 (FR441)
F
13/06/1830

BARCLAY
MARJORY
WILLIAM BARCLAY/JANET GRANT FR426 (FR426)
F
21/11/1824

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by ggrocott » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:59 pm

Have a look on here! Lots of lovely Barclay burials! Including Janet Barclay nee Grant in 1847 of consumption, widow of William Barclay, brewer, last address Temple Lane. Son John is also in there in 1845, age 12 due to a disease of the spine, son of late William Barclay labourer, last address Temple Lane.

http://www.fdca.org.uk/pdf%20files/HowffS04.pdf

Gill

PS Baptism GRANT JANET parents
ROBERT GRANT/JANET RITCHIE
25/03/1798
Kilmany
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bolemo
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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by bolemo » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:27 pm

Good evening,

Ah yes, I remember having this William Barclay and Janet Grant.
My wife and I went to Dundee several years ago and we found the exact same information, without being able to firmly confirm the link, but it is very likely.

Maybe the adress Isabella was living when she died in Dundee is a clue (a sibling's adress ? parents ?)
I guess she returned to Dundee after being injured (or she fell while visiting family there).

I don't see the link for the burials in your last post, but I suppose it is the Friends of Dundee City Archives that I found today googling the cemetery (and it is giving the Death Information you were given). http://www.fdca.org.uk/pdf%20files/HowffB01.pdf (EDIT: now I can see the link in your post, same place :wink: )

I also found that about the adress : https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital- ... lume-34/28

I feel that we might be able to advance again.


Regards

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by ggrocott » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:02 pm

Marriage of Robert Grant and Janet Ritchie

From Scotland's People . Robert Grant of Moonzie and Janet Ritchie otp. 22 Dec 1792 Logie, Fife.

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Re: The elusive Janet/Jessie Simpson

Post by bolemo » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:58 am

Might have found William Barclay Junior in 1841 here : https://freecen2.freecen.org.uk/search_ ... 9379091b10

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