thomas lyon.....

john1022 · Post by **john1022** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:48 pm

new member

ANY PRIOR INFORMATION PLEASE ON:

Thomas Lyon---born abt 1770 married Agnes Young b/ch 4 Nov 1777 her
Father's name Archiebald married Agnes Lyon 1776.

Thomas married Agnes abt 1796-they had a daughter Catherine born 1807 who married John Hepburn 25 Aug 1826 at Loudon ,Ayr.
Hopefully this info is correct-but stand to be corrected-Thank you.

CatrionaL · Post by **CatrionaL** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:02 pm

Hullo John

A warm welcome to Talking Scot. Hope you will find the site helpful.

Just in case you don't have this information:

The International Genealogical Index
www.FamilySearch.com
site gives the following childrren for Thomas and Agnes

GRIZAEL LYON Female Christening: 18 JUN 1797 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
JANET LYON Female Birth: 02 MAR 1800 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
JANET LYON Female Birth: 01 MAR 1802 Wallhill, Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
AGNES LYON Female Birth: 22 MAR 1804 Wallhill, Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
CATHARINE LYON Female Birth: 22 NOV 1807 Wallhill, Loudoun, Ayr
MARY LYON Female Birth: 27 JAN 1811 Wallhill, Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
JAMES LYON Male Christening: 30 MAY 1813 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
ARCHIBALD LYON Male Birth: 28 SEP 1815 Wallhill, Loudoun, Ayr

Catherine Lyon and John Hepburn had the following children

AGNES HEPBURN Female Birth: 09 OCT 1829 Hindberrybank, Loudoun, Ayr
ANDREW HEPHBURN Male Birth: 24 OCT 1831 Loudoun, Ayr
THOMAS HEPHBURN Male Birth: 07 SEP 1833 Hinderberrybank, Loudoun, Ayr
ELIZABETH HEPHBURN Female Birth: 06 JAN 1836 Hinderberrybank, Loudoun, Ayr
JAMES HEPBURN Male Birth: 1838 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
ARCHIBALD HEPHBURN Male Birth: 26 NOV 1840 Hallrigs, Loudoun, Ayr
JOHN HEPBURN Male Birth: 12 MAR 1843 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland

Hope this helps.

Best wishes

Catriona

CatrionaL · Post by **CatrionaL** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:47 pm

Hullo again, John

A search of the IGI for LYONs in Loudon, Ayr around the time of Thomas supposed birth gives only female hits. The IGI Batch No is C 116032
It is known that for some parishes, only the female names were indexed.

You will, I think, have to look for Thomas' birth on film at an LDS Family History Centre. I hope there is one near where you live.

Catriona

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:40 pm

Hello John
I recognise the Hepburn link! I think we may have been in touch before on Genes Reunited? In which case you have most of the info I have already on this family.

Thomas Lyon & Agnes Young are my 4th great grandparents. Despite efforts by several Lyon researchers we have not got to the bottom of Thomas...yet! I have not checked the OPRS or any of my Ayrshire lot yet, so there is a possibility he may be in there.

Best wishes
Lesley

john1022 · Post by **john1022** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:03 pm

Re Thomas Lyon
CatrionaL-Thank you for prompt reply,yes I did have the info you listed,
if,as you say, it may mean a visit to an LDS centre,then I shall
have to see if that is possible.In the meantime-perhaps some
one else will contact the forum.
Kind regards
John

Hello Leley-Nice to hear from you again,as you will have guessed,I have
taken your suggestion to try TalkingScot.
If,as Catriona has remarked, there were only female 'hits',
then no wonder we have a problem finding Thomas!.Unless
someone else may have tried this route?.Shall now wait to
see what transpires.
Happy hunting

P.S I am presuming these replies wiil be read by you both ?.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:49 pm

Hi John
Was just trying things on the off-chance and just found "our" Thomas on the 1841 census!! Whoopee! There is no doubt its him as the younger kids are still with him! Not only that, its even better, 2 for the price of one! John Parker and Janet (Lyon, Thomas's daughter) are on the facing page with their kids.

Here's Thomas:

Alton, Loudon, Ayrshire:
Thomas Lyon 70
Mary Lyon 30
James Lyon 28 ag lab
Arch Lyon 25 ag lab
Agnes Lyon 2
all born in county.

( There are 2 granddaughters who could be this young Agnes - she is either the dau of James Lyon and Jean Brown or the dau. of Andrew Lyon and Mary Parker - both were born around 1838)

best wishes
Lesley

john1022 · Post by **john1022** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:33 pm

Good afternon Lesley
Thanks a lot for breaking the 'deadlock'-I seem to recall you mentioned
a while back,that we may get an answer in the 1814c-so it finally paid off!.
I had contacted PFH 'answers' team (attn of Tony Reid or Alan Steward)-
and am still awaiting a reply-no doubt when they do so,they'll tell me to get off my butt and check the census!.

I contacted Claude Wrathall who lives in Washinton,America.(I mentioned
him in one of my messages). The connection was through John Hepburns
second wife Mary Mason-but not a blood relative.He asked for other info-
which I forwarded by 'snail mail',but have not yet rec'd a reply.

Again, many thanks
John

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:07 pm

Hi John
1841 again - the only chance to catch your/our Catherine Lyon on a census and she's there allright!

1841 HEPBURN CATHRIN F 30 LOUDOUN /AYR 603/00 006/00 009

Hallrigs
John Hepburn 35 ag Lab, born - E(ngland)
Catherin Hepburn 30
Agnes Hepburn 11
And. Hepburn 9
Thomas Hepburn 7
Elizabeth Hepburn 5
James Hepburn 3
Arch. Hepburn 6 months

rest of family all born in county.

Best wishes
Lesley

john1022 · Post by **john1022** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:45 am

Good morning Lesley
You really are a 'bobby dazzler'!,(to quote an old Cumbrian expression),
your latest message confirms info we already have on John &Catherine's
family.
Re your earlier message.

john1022 · Post by **john1022** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:12 am

Sorry about that-must have hit the wrong button!.
Re your earlier message,you mention the two grandaughters, I wonder
where you got the info regarding the 1838 date of births?.

James Lyon married Jean Brown 18 July 1846 at Loudon.
Andrew Lyon married Mary Parker 11 Dec 1824 at Loudon,
so they seem more likely to be the parents,do'nt you think?

Hope beginning of message arrived, and again, many thanks
John