Kilbarchan militia - for Russell

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Kilbarchan militia - for Russell

Post by helenbee » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:32 pm

Thank you for the information. I didn't know about the Kilbarchan militia. Any idea if there are any records kept anywhere?
Speirs - Glasgow, Kilbarchan
McAuslan - Glasgow, Argyll
Fleming - Glasgow, Paisley
Henderson - Paisley
McQuarrie - Argyll
Wright - Govan, Tarbolton
Clark - Tarbolton
Lucas - Tarbolton

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Post by Russell » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:51 pm

Hi helen

Thanks for changing the thread. I've been so busy catching up I hadn't realised just how much we had usurped the original post.

Paisley Library is possibly the best bet for records of the militia although they have nothing on-line :(
The Weavers cottage have nothing of any detail other than the uniform and a postcard sized blurb. (I haven't checked recently though)

I'll add this to my 'Must do this as soon as possible........' collection and hope it doesn't end up alongside my local history notes.

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

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Post by helenbee » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:18 pm

Thank you again! I did try emailing the weaver's house some months ago to ask for further information but they never replied. So I feel a trip up north coming on...
Speirs - Glasgow, Kilbarchan
McAuslan - Glasgow, Argyll
Fleming - Glasgow, Paisley
Henderson - Paisley
McQuarrie - Argyll
Wright - Govan, Tarbolton
Clark - Tarbolton
Lucas - Tarbolton

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Post by DavidWW » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:26 pm

Also worth a foray into the TNA catalogue at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cata ... lt.asp?j=1 to see if a search on the basis of "Kilbarchan AND Militia", or "Renfrewshire AND Militia" results in any hits ...............

David

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Post by helenbee » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:30 pm

David - thank you. Just tried this but can't find anything relevant. Was Kiilbarchan militia part of Renfrewshire militia? I understood from what Russell said that it was a separate body.
Speirs - Glasgow, Kilbarchan
McAuslan - Glasgow, Argyll
Fleming - Glasgow, Paisley
Henderson - Paisley
McQuarrie - Argyll
Wright - Govan, Tarbolton
Clark - Tarbolton
Lucas - Tarbolton

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Post by DavidWW » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:27 am

helenbee wrote:David - thank you. Just tried this but can't find anything relevant. Was Kiilbarchan militia part of Renfrewshire militia? I understood from what Russell said that it was a separate body.
A deceptively easy question !

I can't find any reference to "Kilbarchan Militia". I suspect that one of the companies of the Renfrew Militia was associated with Kilbarchan.

As regards rifle volunteers, see http://www.journal74.fsnet.co.uk/disp_010.htm , - again I'd suspect that the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Renfrewshire Rifle Volunteers were associated with Kilbarchan.

David

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Post by DavidWW » Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:20 pm

Ta-da :!:

The solution, - Ian Beckett's "Riflemen Form - A Study of the Rifle Volunteer Movement 1859 - 1908" arrived in this morning's post.

It provides the info that one of the Renfrew corps of riflemen was the 15th (Kilbarchan) Rifle Volunteer Corps, formed in 20Jan1860. As no earlier date of amalgamation or disbandment is given, this implies that it existed up to the absorption of the Rifle Volunteers, and other volunteers such as the yeomanry - mainly cavarly - , into the Territorials in 1908, as a result of the Haldane reforms.

David

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Post by helenbee » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:21 pm

David, does it say where/if records are kept?
Speirs - Glasgow, Kilbarchan
McAuslan - Glasgow, Argyll
Fleming - Glasgow, Paisley
Henderson - Paisley
McQuarrie - Argyll
Wright - Govan, Tarbolton
Clark - Tarbolton
Lucas - Tarbolton

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Post by DavidWW » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:10 pm

helenbee wrote:David, does it say where/if records are kept?
I don't think so, - it's 350+ pages, - but it's much more a history of the rifle volunteers across the UK rather than a "How To" book on researching such ancestors ......

Any such info that has survived should be at TNA at Kew, but who knows what there might be locally.

If I come across any source info I'll let you know, - but Russell's the local man who'll know or be able to find out what local libraries and societies have.

David

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Post by Russell » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:23 pm

Hi Helen

The reason you had no reply from the Weaver's Cottage is the custodian is only part-time and the cottage is only open during the 'tourist' season unless special arrangements are made for school visits.

I have asked various folk in the village whether any records have survived here and there is nothing. They just looked blankly at me as though it was a silly question :shock: :?

I haven't been in to the Paisley Archive to see if there is anything there but I doubt it since some of the people I spoke to are amateur local historians and have done a fair bit of research.
It may be a dead end locally but, as David suggested, there may be some records existing at Kew. That's an area I'm not familiar with at all.

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

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