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Margaret
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WW1 records.....

Post by Margaret » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:17 am

Hello to all at Talking Scot, would someone be able to help me please. I am looking for my dad's war records, he fought with a Scottish regiment out of Glagow. is there somewhere these would be available.
Many thanks :)
Cheers
Margaret
researching:: Morton, Miller, Finlay, McDonald, Bullock, Forrester. Glasgow and Kilmarnock areas

CatrionaL
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Post by CatrionaL » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:01 am

Hullo Margaret

Good to have you with us on TalkingScot.

For your Dad's war records, I suggest you drop a line to

Army Personnel Centre
Historic Disclosures
Mailpoint 400
Kentigern House
65 Brown Street
GLASGOW G2 8EX

You also might like to have a look at

www.regiments.org/wars/ww2/ww2index.htm

All the best for your research
Catriona

Alcluith
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WW1 Medals

Post by Alcluith » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:02 am

Hi Margaret,

a Lot of the WW1 records have been destroyed. The Army Personnel Centre in Glasgow may have something but it will cost £25.00.

If you go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/
click on Family History and then WWI campaign medals you should be able to get your Dads records.
If you follow the guides on reading the information in the records sometimes there are other snippets of information.

If you search google for WW1 sites there are now quite a lot that have a lot of information on where companies were during the war with a lot of facts and figures.
Burns, Quinn - Glasgow, N.Ireland
McLeod, Mackay, Nicholson, McNeil - Skye
James, McLeod, Sinclair, Smith - Renton
Davidson,Adie, Gibb - Aberdeen
Jolly Wishart - Angus
Usher - Newcastle
Mullen, Roe - Dublin
O'Donnell - Ireland, Alexandria

douglas
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Post by douglas » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:08 pm

Margaret

I have used the national archives documents online. This give images of the medal cards. I found that a silverwar badge had been awarded and was interested in finding out the conditions behind this. I tried to use the research facility whereby you can get an estimate from them for producing information but the document I thought would contain this proved to have no information. I emailed them back to explain what I was after and they advised me as follows:
The only document which may tell you why these men received the SWB would be their service record. These do not all survive, since over 50% were destroyed in a fire during the Second World War, but those that survive are held here on microfilm.

You need to look at the Information from Archives leaflet called First
World War Army service: Other ranks (IFA M3) (available at
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/foi/research.htm).


This leaflet will contain advice on the types of document that can be
searched for this kind of information: each search is identified by a
number. The leaflet also tells you how to use our paid search service.
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So depending on how detailed you want the information the online documents is a start.

Douglas
Hope, McLauchlen, Brown: (Peebleshire) Campbell : (Dunbartonshire) Tait: (Berwickshire)
Callan: (Lanarkshire) Davidson, Close, Murdoch: (Edinburgh) Penman (Midlothian)
Wilson (Glasgow/Midlothian)

Margaret
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WW1 records

Post by Margaret » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:33 am

Thank you Catrional, Alcluith and Douglas for your help on WW1 records, the only information I have on Dad's war time was that he inlisted first when he was 16 yrs old with the Sixth Highland Light Infantry, when they discovered how young he was they sent him home and I am presuming that he re enlisted with the same company a short time later. He served under Sir Ian Hamilton and Lord Allenby. Well I am now going to look at the sites you mentioned to see what I find.
many thanks for your help
Cheers
Margaret
researching:: Morton, Miller, Finlay, McDonald, Bullock, Forrester. Glasgow and Kilmarnock areas

Sue Erskine
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WW1 Records

Post by Sue Erskine » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:40 pm

Hi Margaret

The national archives web site contains a description of which medals were awarded for what type of service. You can find the description on the website in the 'read more' link of the WW1 medals section http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... medals.asp

In here you'll find the following:

The Silver War Badge was authorised in Sept 1916 and takes the form of a circular badge with the legend - For King and Empire-Services Rendered - surrounding the George V cipher. The badge was awarded to all of those military personnel who were discharged as a result of sickness or wounds contracted or received during the war, either at home or overseas.


I've just found my G.Grandfather war medal card using this site :)
Sue

Rellies include: Watson, Campbell, Erskine, Kennedy (All Airdrie area)

Alcluith
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Post by Alcluith » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:50 am

Hi Margaret

this is another useful site if you are researching WW1

http://www.1914-1918.net/index.htm
Burns, Quinn - Glasgow, N.Ireland
McLeod, Mackay, Nicholson, McNeil - Skye
James, McLeod, Sinclair, Smith - Renton
Davidson,Adie, Gibb - Aberdeen
Jolly Wishart - Angus
Usher - Newcastle
Mullen, Roe - Dublin
O'Donnell - Ireland, Alexandria

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:58 am

Margaret

Given that he served under Allenby and Hamilton, you need to check the history of the campaigns in which they were involved to see if the 6th HLI were involved.

Davie

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Post by tishgibbons » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:25 pm

Hi,

I'm sure you found this already but just in case you didn't the Scottish War Memorial is on-line and from there you can get into the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. Only useful if they died of course.

A question about this for someone out there with 'know how'. I am trying to trace a Walter Farquharson Mitchell and an Alfred Forbes Mitchell (of Aberdeen and Banchory Ternan) and have found a A.F. Mitchell and a W. F. Mitchell graves about the right age. The site doesn't say where these people came from other than UK and they weren't with Scottish regiments. Am I clutching at straws and is there anyway to confirm if they were the Mitchells I am looking for? I have so many straws clutched at now I could build a haystack!

Tish
Researching Mitchell Grassick Bowman Farquharson Wilson Allanach Leys Coutts Gauld McNerney from Crathie and Braemar, Strathdon and Glenbuchat and who moved on to Aberdeen, Glasgow, Ireland, Australia, India, Canada.

Alcluith
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Post by Alcluith » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:04 pm

Hi Trish


Not sure about your two Mitchells but AF was a Farrier Corporal and his Reg No is TS/8480.
Could Alfred have been a Ferrier ?
if you think he might have been then a shot at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/
click on Family History and then WWI campaign medals and you should be able to get the medals for AF Mitchell, it will cost you £3.50. but it might establish or eliminate him from your research.

I some times go to Banchory and will have a nose about for Mitchells information. You might also try the Aberdeen Central Library for the Mitchell's shop in Banchory by emailing info to ReferenceLibrary@aberdeencity.gov.uk

Hope this helps
Burns, Quinn - Glasgow, N.Ireland
McLeod, Mackay, Nicholson, McNeil - Skye
James, McLeod, Sinclair, Smith - Renton
Davidson,Adie, Gibb - Aberdeen
Jolly Wishart - Angus
Usher - Newcastle
Mullen, Roe - Dublin
O'Donnell - Ireland, Alexandria