WW1 boys please help!

[Anniespangles]

I have a wee voluntary job at the moment putting together a data base of the young men who have their names inscribed on the local memorial stone.I have muster roll details of a young man named Martin Holloran he was 21yrs and 11mths on the 30.5 16 when he enrolled ,he lived at 23 William Street Dumbarton and was a fitters helper,his service numbers is 325955.Can any of you help shine more of a light on Martin? I have another man Private Patrick McGinley or McGinlay, I have an account written by him of his experiances in the trenches published on the 2nd May 1915.The article says he had people at 79 Collage street Dumbarton who he came to visit after being in hospital for 7 weeks with frost bite he got from trench conditions.It says he was in the 2nd Battalion Inniskillings could this be the same man on our memorial stone OR could it be another Patrick McGinley or McGinlay for whom I have a service return which says he died at Ypres 4/12.11.14- service number 4468 Scots Guards.Any help on these guys would be lovely,really Id be so thankful .Anne

Ishould also have added that in the remarks colum for Martin Hollorans enlistment it says Transfered 2/8th Argyll and Southern Highlanders 13.7.17

[AndrewP]

Hi Annie,

You certainly have a lot of names to research.

See Scottish War Memorials Project :: Dumbarton for pictures and some information regarding the memorial and those who fell in the wars.

All the best,

AndrewP

[Currie]

Hello Annie,

The National Archives medal card index has Martin down as Hollern. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... i=D2921869

Reference: WO 372/10/3492
Description: Medal card of Hollern, Martin
Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, 325955, Private
Gordon Highlanders, G/41783, Private
Date: 1914-1920

There’s reference here to the 2/8th (The Argyllshire) Battalion, presumably that’s the “2/8th Argyll and Southern Highlanders” you mentioned. It was disbanded in July, 1918, and I don’t think there’s anything there about them leaving the UK, but he must have entered a Theatre of War later on, presumably with the Gordon Highlanders, if he was entitled to campaign medals. http://www.1914-1918.net/argyll.htm


Could this Patrick be the one who wrote the letter? He died 1915 according to the CWGC.

McGINLEY, PATRICK
Rank: Private
Service No: 3829
Date of Death: 16/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference Panel 16 and 17.
Memorial LE TOURET MEMORIAL


In The Scotsman, 29 January, 1915, there’s a list of about 80 Scots Guards reported killed, including:
M’Ginlay, 7468, P.

The SNWM site has his place of birth as County Donegal.

Surname McGINLEY
Firstname Patrick
Service Number 7468
Date Death 12/11/1914
Decoration
Place of birth Dunlow Co Donegal
Other
SNWM roll SCOTS GUARDS
Rank Gdsm
Theatre of death F.& F.


This Patrick, died 1916, was born Dumbartonshire. The SNWM has him listed for each of his regiments.

Surname McGINLEY
Firstname Patrick
Service Number 3/4251
Date Death 27/06/1916
Decoration
Place of birth Clydebank Dumbartonshire
Other 2nd Bn. formerly 3/6237, A.& S.H.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death Persian Gulf.

Surname McGINLEY
Firstname Patrick
Service Number 3/6237
Date Death 27/06/1916
Decoration
Place of birth Clydebank Dumbartonshire
Other latterly 3/4251 2nd Bn. The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders).
SNWM roll THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death Persian Gulf.


Not sure if that’s any help,
Alan

[trish1]

There is a service record on Ancestry for an Owen Hollern who lived at 23 William Street Dumbarton - so presumably a brother

1901 has the family living at 51 William St Dumbarton
Martin Hollerm 25 head iron dresser born Ireland
Bella Hollern 27 wife born Dumbarton
and 4 sons
Martin Hollern Jr 6
Owen Hollern 5
Robert Hollern 2
John Holleran [sic - ancestry transcript] 4mo

Trish