SS Menus of Cardiff

[david macdiarmid]

Has anybody heard of this ship.The "Menus" might not be quite right,I am reading it from a marraige cert and it is quite difficult to read.This ship was my Uncle Harry Sutherland's Usual Residence when he Married in 1937 .Does anybody know of a site where i can check personnel etc.Harry, according to story's i have been told was awarded for shooting down an enemy plane whilst in the Merchant Navy.I have tried Ancestry but have had no success regarding Merchant Seamen,any clues, much appreciated as always,David

[SarahND]

Hi David,
There are many, many listings for a Harry Sutherland born abt 1908-9 on the ship's lists on Ancestry.com. He is a crew member. Nothing that sounds like "Menus" but the ships listed most often are the Queen of Bermuda and the Acadia. Was he a U.S. citizen? The one I found is listed as one,so maybe he isn't yours?

All the best,
Sarah

[LesleyB]

Just incase he is the one mentioned on Ancestry, you can access Ancestry free of charge at Cupar library, David.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Currie]

Hello David,

Whenever I Google ship menus I get a list of things to eat.

The exact name of the ship will probably be pretty important if you want to get anywhere with your query.

If the marriage certificate is a poor quality image and that’s what is making the name unclear it may be a good idea to ask SP via a contact form for a better copy.

If it is a good copy it may be useful to get some other opinions of the handwriting by posting the image of the certificate or part of it into the gallery. If the gallery isn’t up and running maybe you could try using a facility such as photobucket or something similar. http://photobucket.com/

Was he a Harry or a Henry and was that his full name?

All the best,
Alan

[Hugh MacLean]

Hello David,
Could you also post his date and place of birth as that will help,
Regards

[david macdiarmid]

Hi Guys,thanks for that as always.Harry was born in Leith 18 / 12 / 1892.He married Fora in Edinburgh 14 / 7 / 1937 and he had a heart attack on Ben Lomond off Dover 4 / 11 / 1948.The problem on the Cert was not the Quality but the unusual handwriting,David

[Hugh MacLean]

Hello David,

I cant be 100% but I think this is your uncles medal record held in piece BT 395/1 at TNA. The link is here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... ultcount=1 The date of birth is 1891 instead of 1892 but he is the only Harry Sutherland in the Merchant Navy who was awarded a gallantry medal during WWII. This file can be downloaded for £3.50.

Harry Sutherland was awarded the BEM and was gazetted 4 June 1943 - Birthday Hounours List. I can tell you that the ship he was serving on at the time was BENDORAN.

For any further information about service records etc then they can help: http://www.mercantilemarine.org/index.php

[Hugh Stevely]

BENDORAN

A bit info here on the BENDORAN.

Hugh.

http://www.sscityofcairo.co.uk/bendoran.php


BENLINE link is up on Marine Data.

http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/benline.html


http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/bencadet.html

[david macdiarmid]

Hi Lesley, I am on a free trial with Ancestry until the 15th but no matter how hard i try i cannot extract information from this source.I am sure its easy but as hard as i try i have had no success with any search i have attempted.A quick refresher course may be what is needed urgently,David

[david macdiarmid]

Hi Guys,I downloaded the file regarding Harry,but i am none the wiser to what it all means.There are boxes that are circled and crossed and it means nothing to me,any clues? If Harry was in the Birthday Honours list he must have been in the Scotsman,the Evening News and The London Times,how do i get that info .Can i view his medal anywhere and can i find out why he was awarded it? Meeting all my family tomorrow on the 8th for a funeral,hoped to have some info but no time for research this month,Thanks again,David