MIs or similar Renfrew

[trish1]

Does anyone have any MIs or other death information for the parishes of Inchinnan (main one) Renfrew or Erskine. I am trying to verify some death dates 1789-1853 - the records I have say buried in Inchinnan. The opr deaths/burials for these parishes are almost non existant.

Trish

[Ina]

Hi Trish,

Have you checked with the Renfrewshire Family History Society? Here is their website http://www.renfrewshirefhs.co.uk/

I purchased a CD of the MI's for the Greenock cemetery from them. Still waiting for the 2nd CD to become available.

Ina

[Russell]

Hi Trish

If you PM me with details I'll take a look for you. Its 2.30 a.m. so I'm keeping this short

Russell

[trish1]

many thanks Russell - I'll send the names

Trish

Thanks Ina - I did try to get a Renfrew CD some time ago - didn't seem to eventuate - I have the Fife one - it is really useful - so I'll recheck for Renfrew

[sty]

Hi Trish

I have a book of the MI for Erskine old Churchyard, and Inchinnan, if you wish to give me names I will be happy to look them up for you.

Sheila

[trish1]

Hi Sheila

Thankyou for the offer - perhaps Russell has similar - probably no reason not to mention the names on the board - they all passed a long time ago. I guess I spend so much time searching for them I tend to think they are still with us!

This is what I sent Russell

Parents James Muir (1751 - 1816) buried in Inchinnan Church Yard - where his wife Mary Why(i)te was buried 1812
Children
Thomas Muir 1782-1853 buried Inchinnan
Elizabeth Muir (must have died before 1799) - 1784-1798 buried Inchinnan
Janet Muir 1784 - 1789 buried Inchinnan
James Muir 1788 - 1826 buried Paisley

I am probably interested in all/any Muirs in the inchinnan Church Yard - most would probably be related - but the above are the ones I am trying to verify at the minute. I'll recheck Erskine - I thought I was looking for some folks there as well.

many thanks
Trish

[Russell]

Hi Trish

Since you have put the names up I thought I'd do likewise as any that are not relevant may be relevant to someone else.

I used the Mitchell's pre-1855 resource and should make the point that they often included later inscriptions where the initial one was pre-1855.

In Inchinnan there were 4 entries (17,18,33.150)

17. A wall mural Alexander Muir - farmer -Netherton 23/2/1855 aged 74
Wife Margaret Jackson 5/6/1833 aged 44.

18. Fallen stone James Muir farmer Netherton 29/4/1816 aged 64
Wife Mary Whyte22/3/1812 aged 65
Sister Elizabeth 1798 1 years. Janet 1789 aged 2 years
George Muir 20/12/1860 aged 64. John Muir 22/4/1861 aged 67.

33. Fallen stone alexander Muir 16/6/1779 aged 92 - His wife and children

150. Fallen stone James Guinea 14/11/1900 aged 54
His Wife Sarah Muir 2/4/1922 aged 67
Son Archibald 18/10/1910 aged 19
Son John 12/4/1888 aged 9years
g daughter Annie Robison Berry 14/4/1902 aged 2 1/2 years
g daughter Sarah Muir Guinea 26/2/1915 aged 7 months
Erected by daughter (h Alexander Hunter Kirkwood 9/12/1918 aged 43)

This last lair is on the other side of the church ruin well away from the other 2 and one of the last burials in this graveyard.

Paisley was more of a challenge
There were more than 40 MUIR records spread over a dozen graveyards. Woodside could be ruled out as it only came into use in the mid 1800's
Paisley Abbey was either way too early or latterly only for the merchant class (and above) in Paisley society.
I checked Laigh church, High Church, Oakshaw East and West Thread St, Canal St, Gaelic church and Abbey Close but there was no stone within the correct time frame. Doesn't mean he isn't buried there somewhere but short of searching out the old Lair records (many of which probably don't exist any more) there seems no way to locate his burial plot.

I tried to PM this to you last night but my computer was not in the mood to make the connection. I didn't hit it with a hammer but felt like it I can tell you.

Russell

[sty]

Hi Trish
I have the same book as Russell. I also found a MI in Inverkip : 36 Geo ORR, son Jas Fewar here 24.9.1789 age 63 ( Wid Janet MUIR)

54: 1783 Wm Alexander, Jean Alexander, Joan Alexander & Agnes Young. Robt Alexander. Margt Muir

122 John Paterson late Fr in Little Cloch 17.3.1831 age 71, son Jas Muir died on passage from Demerara 16.4.1832, wife Janet Alexander 30.12.1840 age 72

In Houston : 108 (in iron frame) John Kirkwood fr Netherfields 29.11.1771 9.1.1847, wife eliz White 4. 1784 10.1848 2 s John writer Glasgow 18.9.1804 7.1838
114 John White

In Erskine : 24 Mr Jas Dickson in Longhaugh, wife Mrs Martha White, 2s Robt Walter 5.12.1802 age 11, 2 da Kath 14.12.1802 age 15 chn ann, robt,walter & wm Glen d inf.
40 : Robt Cunningham farmer North ----- . Robt Cunningham 22.8.185(5) age 71 wife jane White 5.5.1835 age 57 chn robt and margt d infancy.
41 : Allan Gilmour jun wife Jessie S White 17.8.1899 age 33 da Margaret White
42 : John White fr d Fulwood 24.7.1885 age 71 wife Mary W Cunningham 19.6.1899 age 71 da Margt Holmes 17.9.1915
43 : Thos White in Fulwood 6.10.1921 age 58 wife Janet Gillies Scott 20.1.1960 age 89

Not sure if any of these are of use?

sheila

[Russell]

Hi Sheila

That was some trawl you just completed.
Even if they are not useful to Trish they might be just what some other searcher is looking for. Sometimes when you log on to TalkingScot, rather than post a query, try the 'Search' first. AndrewP rescued all of our archived posts and a name may have come up in one of those.
Although I have suggested this for newer researchers even the oldtimers (figuratively speaking of course ) forget how useful a search of previous posts can be.

Russell

[trish1]

Hi to both of you

Thank you so much for such searching - I am trying to search forward (& back) for the siblings of my immigrant families (trying to prove/disprove family folk law in some cases) - so this is wonderful help - I need to copy it all & see what fits where. Sometimes the naming patterns can give me multiple cousins with the same name - takes awhile to sort them out - the MIs can be a great help.

Russell - A query - the "wall mural" - is this inside the church? - This was a bonus - I had loaded down the 1855 certificate about the same time as I posted the query. Alexander was another son of James Muir and Mary White.

Sheila - the White records may well be related - Cunningham is also a family name - with an Elizabeth Cunningham/William Miller marriage in Erskine 1775 - these being my gggg grandparents. Son Robert Miller married Elizabeth Muir & this was my immigrant couple.

many thanks again

Trish

As someone who has only once visited Scotland (Edinburgh) and didn't know at the time she was descended from so many scots - could be explain what this is for me the Mitchell's pre-1855 resource I assume you mean the Mitchell library - I think in Glasgow? Is it a book, a CD, something I can buy?