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Post by **paddyscar** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:16 pm

Hi Ailsa:

This is how I read the certificate:

On the second day of October 1857 at Perth. Marriage (after banns) was solemnized between us according to the forms of the Established Church of Scotland.
(Signed)
William Thomson, 20
3 Newton Street, Partick, Parish of Govan
Mason Journeyman, Bachelor
Parents: William Thomson, Store Keeper
Elizabeth Thomson, Maidenname Laing

(Signed) Isabella McFarlane, 20
Bruce Place Partick, Parish of Govan
Domestic Service, Spinster
Parents: Dugald McFarlane, ????, deceased
??? McFarlane
Maiden name Christie

Witnesses:
(Signed)Archibald Fleming, Minister of Perth Church Parish
(Signed) Robert Thomson, Witness
John Christie, Witness

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:27 pm

Thanks Paddyscar,

I was struggling with a few words i.e the Established church and the addresses in Partick.
The witnesses are good because i would imagine John Christie - might be Margaret's brother and that could help me find her family in the census. I know her father is James from her marriage cert.
Also i now know Dougald died 1857 or before that might help me also.

Thanks for the help,

Ailsa

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:38 pm

Hi All,
Well, I narrowed down when Dougald may have died and and typed in how his name was written on Isabella's marriage cert (Dugald) and 1 match came up. Father Dugald - Mother Garvie.
Sadly it was his, he died in 1856 - however he committed suicide by drowning in the River Clyde. Never discussed in our family (and my mum is still alive, he would have been her gt gt grandfather).
I can't really make out what is says after the death report - i will post it and maybe someone can help me.
Also i have had no luck with the newspaper searches - can anyone who can find their way round them please have a look and see if there is any reports of it in the Newspapers. I would be very grateful.

Regards,

Ailsa

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:52 pm

Parents: Dugald McFarlane, [looks like] Saw? Sharper?, deceased
Margaret McFarlane
Maiden name Christie (I'd agree it looks like Christie)

Was the father's occupation on the death entry? (its bugging me now!

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Post by **Tracey** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:09 pm

On the 1851 census his occupation is Saw Sharpener

Name: Dugald McFarlane
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunning, Perth
Parish Number: 646
Civil Parish: Govan
Town: Partick
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Dumbarton Road Bruce Place
Occupation: Saw Sharpener

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:14 pm

Hi Lesleyb,

I can't make out the occupation - on Dugald jnr's birth cert the father's occupation is wool spinner - but bearing in mind he would have been young then, it may be something to do with the weaving industry.

Ailsa

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:54 am

On the 1851 census his occupation is Saw Sharpener

Thanks Tracey...I'll be able to go to sleep now!!

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:22 am

Hello Ailsa,

The problem with the Mc’s is that usually the c is either a ‘ or is superscripted and is not recognised in the search. Resultant isolated single letters such as the M also tend to be ignored. So, if you are looking for a Dugald McFarlane, try searching for Dugald Farlane and there he is.

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, October 17, 1856
Melancholy Case of Suicide.—On Wednesday evening, about half-past five o'clock, a man named Dugald M'Farlane, a saw sharper to trade, and residing in Partick, committed suicide by leaping into the river about a mile below Partick. The act was observed by several labourers, who were at work in the vicinity, but before they could render any assistance, the unfortunate man had disappeared. The body was recovered in about ten minutes afterwards, but life was extinct. Deceased, who was in a desponding state of mind, consequent on the unsuccessful issue of a law case, has left a widow and six children, five of whom are unable to earn their livelihood.

There’s also an advert placed by Smith & Rodger, Middleton Iron Shipyard, Govan, in the Glasgow Herald, July 14, 1854, accusing a list of employees, including a Dugald McFarlane from 1st July, of deserting their employment. It warns other shipbuilders against employing them and there seems to be a threat of legal action if they do so. If this is your Dugald maybe it was a development of this that drove him to it.

Alan

Hugo · Post by **Hugo** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:36 am

The problem with the Mc’s is that usually the c is either a ‘ or is superscripted and is not recognised in the search. Resultant isolated single letters such as the M also tend to be ignored. So, if you are looking for a Dugald McFarlane, try searching for Dugald Farlane and there he is.

Currie,

Thanks for this. It is another thing I had not thought of.

What I have recently found (on Ancestry) is a space after the Mc and the rest of the surname e.g. 'Mc Donachie' for 'McDonachie'.

Hugo

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:32 am

Hi Alan,

Just read your posting re Dugald McFarlane. Thanks very much for finding the newspaper article, i was sure there would be something as the newspapers seemed to thrive on that sort of news (as they still do).
It was never mentioned in my family - maybe it was kept a secret!
I will try the search with your useful tip on Mc or Macs.

Thanks again,

Ailsa