Aberdeen districts 1841 Census

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:21 pm

Jean,

"Jingle bells! Jingle bells! "

Carol

WilmaM · Post by **WilmaM** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:49 pm

The Robertson Grieg I found was a Milne, she married William Grieg in St Nicolas so she is probably some relation of 'your' lot !

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:05 pm

Wilma,

I wouldn't be surprised at all if she was a relation. Mine was born in 1825 so yours might have been an older cousin. Now you see why I threw in the towel on this branch earlier on!

Robertson and Janet's mother was a Mary Gordon. She was born in Glasgow according to the 1851 census, married William Milne in Peterhead according to their marriage certificate and the informant on Robertson's death certificate was John Gordon, in Peterhead who was the govenor of the Poorhouse there.

There is at least one Smith in my family. Maybe I'll go have a look at him for a while...

Carol

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:30 am

Well, after some serious digging, I still haven't found Janet's mother Mary and her sisters Robertson and Martha on the 1841 Census, but it appears that Robertson had two sons out of wedlock, James Dunningham 1863 in either Fetteresso or Stonehaven, Kincardineshire and Philip Milne 1866 in the Aberdeen City Poorhouse.

By 1871 Robertson and the two boys are living in the poorhouse in Peterhead. Robertson dies in 1873 of tuberculosis and in 1881 both boys are still living in the Peterhead poorhouse. Philip is a scholar and James is now James Milne, 18 and a Pauper. James disappears from the records after this. I haven't had a chance to check the immigration lists yet for him. Philip probably is the farm laborer who dies of pneumonia in Old Deer in 1891 with parents listed as question marks on his death certificate.

I haven't found a marriage or death certificate for Martha, but she could have died between 1851 and 1855. Little Janet, 2 years old on the 1851 Census likewise disappears. I couldn't find a birth certificate for her or for James Dunningham/Milne.

Also on a separate page of the 1851 Census, but at the same address as Mary and the girls is a Margaret Milne, 32 with her nephew Alexander Milne, 12 . Now I'm wondering if she also was a sister of Janet's and if there wasn't an older brother Alexander somewhere too. Mary and William married in 1808, but the first child I could find records for was Janet born in 1818. William was a seaman, but I doubt if he was gone from home completely for the first ten years!

Thanks to everyone who gave me some help on this one. Still have some digging to do!

Merry Christmas!
Carol

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:29 am

Sorry I thought you had found Mary in 1841 -

Name: Mary Milne
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 116 Skene St
Occupation: Wife
Parish Number: 168B
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Milne 50

Regards,
Annette

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:27 pm

Annette,

Thanks for that one. I remember looking at her and putting it aside because the girls Robertson and Martha weren't there. Also, if you look at the others on the page there is a James Milne family living at the same address and a David Milne 13, living next door. Obviously, this needs more digging! And Robertson and Martha must be out there somewhere too.

Carol

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:36 pm

Hi Carol

On the birth certificate for James Dunningham, born at Allardice Street, Stonehaven, Fetteresso in January 1863, his mother is given as Robison Milne - there is a marriage date of November 1862 in Aberdeen for her marriage to Philip Dunningham - but I cannot find this at all.

I then searched for Robison Milne in 1841 and she appears then in Fetteresso as a farm servant aged 17 but it says she was born in Kincardineshire, this can be found on both Ancestry and SP.

Susan.

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:18 pm

Susan

How did you search for James Dunningham on SP? I have tried both Fetteresso and Stonehaven and All Districts and keep getting No Results!

Carol

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:12 pm

Susan,

Found the birth certificate for James by searching D*unningham!

No luck on the marriage certificate. It's interesting that James' BC shows a marriage because Robertson's second child Philip is born in the Aberdeen City Poorhouse in 1866. No father shown, last name Milne and his mother is Robinson Milne.

Wish I could get a look at the Poor Relief applications for her!

Thanks for the information. I have found Robertson/Robinson on the 1841 Census now. There are Collies and McKays both there and in Aberdeen on Skene St. near her mother.

Only Martha is still missing in 1841--plus any other kids I haven't found yet!

Carol

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:14 pm

Hi Carol

Since it was quite an unusual name I went for quite a wide search to see who all it picked up. I used Surname - Dunningham & County - Kincardine - and that only came up with the one entry - your James Dunningham.

I tried again just now and using Dunningham and Fetteresso that comes up with one entry - which should be yours also.

Back in 1863 Stonehaven was split between the parishes of Fetteresso and Dunnottar - it was not until about the 1930s that entries were recorded as Stonehaven.

Susan.