Help deciphering death cert

cadmium · Post by **cadmium** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:48 am

Also, can anyone tell me what is meant by 'feuar'?

The house next door looks like family too.

cadmium · Post by **cadmium** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:49 pm

I wonder if I could be cheeky and ask for help with a second certificate I'm having trouble deciphering. Since you've all been so helpful (it's in the gallery)!

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1501

This time it's an 1867 marriage certificate, David Callender & Margaret (McDonald). It's David's second marriage, as his previous wife Elizabeth died in 1863.
The certificate says Margaret McDonald, but she's signed it another name - I guess she's a widow? I can't read it, though. G-----?

I have:

David Callender, 37
Slater Journeyman
Widower
Margaret G___, 48
___ & ___
Widow
53 Clyde St, Anderston, Glasgow
William Callender
________________
(deceased) and
Isabella (?)
Ms Sinclair - ___
Alexander McDonald
____ merchant (?)
(deceased) and
Jane McDonald
______
Witnesses:
Malcolm Mc___
Charlotte Ramsay

Thanks for your help!

Gallery url added by Marilyn

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:33 pm

Hi Mi

I read it as follows:

David Callander, Slater Journeyman, Widower, age 37
Margaret George, Washer and Dresser, Widwow, age 48

David's parents:-

William Callander, Hand Loom Weaver, deceased.
Isabella Callander, m.s. Sinclair, deceased.

Margaret's parents:-

Alexander McDonald, Provision Merchant, deceased
Jane McDonald m.s. Sellars, deceased.

Witnesses:-

Malcolm McNaughton and Charlotte Ramsay.

Best wishes
Jean

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:34 pm

mikokunsaki wrote:Also, can anyone tell me what is meant by 'feuar'?

See: http://www.scotsfamily.com/occupations.htm
Feuar Landholder under feudal system paid a feu (fee) to the overlord

Currie wrote:Could the time of death be 9h 5m pm?

I think you're right, Alan. The others on the page only have one number and "h" for hour. The "m" is scribbled a bit, but I think that's what it is.

Regards,
Sarah

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:44 pm

mikokunsaki wrote:I wonder if I could be cheeky and ask for help with a second certificate I'm having trouble deciphering. Since you've all been so helpful (it's in the gallery)!

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1501

This time it's an 1867 marriage certificate, David Callender & Margaret (McDonald). It's David's second marriage, as his previous wife Elizabeth died in 1863.
The certificate says Margaret McDonald, but she's signed it another name - I guess she's a widow? I can't read it, though. G-----?

I have:

David Callender, 37
Slater Journeyman
Widower
Margaret George, 48
Washer & Dryer Widow
53 Clyde St, Anderston, Glasgow
William Callender
Handloom Weaver
(deceased) and
Isabella Callander Ms Sinclair - deceased
Alexander McDonald
Provisions merchant (?)
(deceased) and
Jane McDonald
Sellars?????
Witnesses:
Malcolm McLaughlin?
Charlotte Ramsay

Thanks for your help!

Gallery url added by Marilyn

Regards,
Annette

Post by **AndrewP** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:47 pm

I had a peek at the 1860 marriage certificate for John George and Margaret McDonald. Her parents are as found above - Alexander McDonald, Provision Dealer and Jane Sellars, both deceased. Again, Margaret is listed as a widow.

My feeling is that the witness was McNaughton rather than McLaughlin, but there is definitely still some doubt in that.

All the best,

AndrewP

cadmium · Post by **cadmium** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:59 pm

Thanks again, everyone! That's intriguing about Margaret being re-married before. I wonder if that would have been somewhat controversial in those days.

Post by **joette** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:57 am

With way society was set up in those days the best or only recourse for the majority of women was marriage.
It is not uncommon to see a woman marry three or four times in her life.
The same may be said for a man too especially if he had children.You may see them marry with indecent haste after the death of a spouse.
Life was hard & both needed the other oftimes just to survive.