English death certs online?

Post by **Tracey** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:11 pm

Why dont you email me instead ?

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:57 pm

Hi Tracey,

Thank you very much for that. I saved 3 pounds by having the vol and page no. So instead of 10 pounds i paid 7 pounds. It all counts when you are doing research i'm sure you will agree.
Another mystery i have in my husband's family is an uncle Thomas Purcell of his who although born in Scotland i cannot find any trace of him in the death certs in Scotlandspeople. He would have been born around 1900 - 1912 in Glasgow mother Annie Rodgers and father John Purcell. My hunch is he moved to England or Wales and died there.
I know it's a needle in a haystack but can you have a wee look for me please.
No probs if you can;t as you have been helpful enough.

Thanks,

Ailsa

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:02 am

Tracey wrote:Ok - havnt recieved it yet ! The deaths go up to 1983 on Ancestry so your luck is just in !

Just noticed this thread, so thought I would mention - the deaths on ancestry for England/Wales - as well as births and marriages go to 2005. From 1984 onwards it is a transcribed index and much easier to find folks

Trish

Edit: (In case you haven't found Thomas)
There are about 6 Thomas Purcell's died after 1983, born in the period referenced, and a few more with middle names. To search the indexes prior to 1984 for a death is very laborious as the index for each quarter only relates to a page this person MAY be on and you have to look at 4 (or more) scans for each year of the search. The only information given is age in the earlier years & date of birth from (I think) the 1970s plus the registration district. Parents are not mentioned on the index or the certificate. If you can find his date of birth you will have a better chance of finding the right person - but if he died before 1984, it will be a laborious search and there may be a number of possibles.

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:55 am

Thanks for the info Trish,

I appreciate it helps to know the birth date for Thomas Purcell but it is very vague. His brother John (my husband's grandfather) was born in 1902 we don't know of any other siblings. I thought he would have been born a few years after John but there doesn't seem to be many that fit. The ones that do are all no image as they are not available to view yet.
If any one has ancestry and can look at any Thomas Purcell births in Glasgow (Gorbals,hutchesontown) area from 1900 untill the cutoff time it would be appreciated. Father John mother Annie Rodgers.

Thanks,

Ailsa

Post by **Tracey** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:19 pm

Hello Trish

Your absolutley right of course and off forum 1984 to 2005 was checked and i think there were roughly 14 deaths in that period (with about four name varients ie Thomas as a middle name) given search year of 1905 - + 10 years as no exact date was known and i thought that would cover it. I did look through earlier dates and if i remember correctly nothing seemed to fit and like you say its a laborious task and luckily there wernt to many !
It is frustrating that you cant just input a name and the results show only that name.

Tracey

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:28 pm

It isn't alot of fun looking for deaths in England - apart from anything else the certificates contain so little data, unless you know the date of birth and the informant knew the birth date or age, the certificate itself may be of little use in identifying your man. There are exceptions and I have had some luck with 2 (just 2). At seven pounds each, I don't purchase many.

FreeBDM had certainly added alot of information since I have been using it, so it will probably be up to 1983 before the England/Wales registry gets itself together. This does/will allow direct search by name, but it is still difficult to identify the correct person on death indexes.

Perhaps the 1911 census will help with your search Ailsa, if nothing is found earlier. The England/Wales census is due next year, although I am thinking your man may still be in Scotland (if born) at that time. I guess another option is to hope someone else is researching the same family

Sorry I am not alot of help

Trish

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:01 am

Hi Trish1,

I appreciate your help and i expect i will have to wait till the 1911 census comes out.
I looked back over some of the old photos and there is a photo he(Thomas Purcell) had taken in Swansea - my husband maintains he lived somewhere in Wales - it could be he died there.
It (his death) would be about 1940 - 1950 and if he was born around 1911 it would make him between 30 - 40 years old.

A long shot perhaps,

Ailsa

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:31 pm

Hi everyone,

Just to let you know i have found Thomas Purcell's death cert. I went for the Glasgow death in 1945 which would fit in with him being born round about 1911 and in his thirties - so he didn't die in Wales/England after all. He was 33 and single and died either in the ambulance or in the Victoria Hospital - cause of death TB. The surprise was that his sister (A? Birrell ) was the witness - news to us that he had a sister. So another lead to follow!

Thanks to everyone!

Ailsa