Marriage Record

[LesleyB]

The only child born in Scotland is Jane McFarlane in Whiteinch, Renfrewshire, if census is correct she was 8 in 1891 so birth c.1883. I have been unable to find her birth in SP.

...and on SP there are 9 Jane M*cFarlan* s born in Renfrew between 1881 - 1883. But, I gather Whiteinch may not have been in Renfrew at that time:

Whiteinch was at one stage part of the burgh of Partick, until that burgh's absorption into the expanding city of Glasgow in 1912, and part of the Parish of Govan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteinch

I'm seeing no Jane M*cFarlan* s born in Govan during that period, but 3 were born in Partick over that same period, (2 of those in 1882 which seems like the most likely year), but you've maybe looked at these ones already and none are the correct Jane.

It certainly would seem worth chasing Jane's birth entry as this should give the date and place of marriage of the parents. (if they remembered and gave it accurately...but that's another story!)

[crayspond]

Hi Lesley,

I found her!
I looked back in my viewed records and sure enough i had searched and came up with three in Partick i took my chance on the one without middle names and sure enough there she was.
I had in my mind that the place and date of marriage would not be on the records at that time and also the confusion whether Partick came under Renfrew or Lanark etc etc - but thanks to you pointing out that the marriage info should be there i thought it was worth the chance.

They lived at 57 Centre St, Whiteinch Jane was born 6/8/1882. He was an Iron?ship caulker journeyman.
They were married 21/11/1871 in Belfast. However going back to emeraldancestors they are not there. Quite a lot of marriages for that year in Belfast but not for them.
Anyway, another brick in the wall has came down - thanks again Lesley for all your help. I am well chuffed!

Ailsa

[LesleyB]

Hi Ailsa
Good to hear some progress has been made. Well done!

Best wishes
Lesley
p.s. I don't think any of the Irish sites offer a complete index.

[crayspond]

Hi Again,
Back on the McFarlane subject, i found the below info on familysearch.org when i was looking for the wife of James McFarlane - Jane Dickson.
The mother and father fit from Jane's death cert but it says below she was born 1837? going by the census for James i have him born c.1845/6 Is it common for Familysearch to get the wrong dates?

Husband

JAMES DICKSON


Wife

ELIZA MURPHY

Children

1. JANE DICKSON
Pedigree

Female


Birth: 23 APR 1837 Dromore Parish, Down, Ireland
Christening:


Ailsa

[AndrewP]

Hi Ailsa,

This birth information is extracted from the parish records, so should be correct - assuming the information in the register was correct and that it was transcribed onto the IGI without any errors. Assuming the person on the birth record is definitely the same person you have found on the census(es) then I would put the birth record as more likely to be reliable.

Which censuses have you found him in, and how consistent were the ages given from one census to the next? If they were consistent at 10 years apart each 10 years, then I would be suspecting that he is not the same person as appears on the birth record - unless you have any other reliable information to link them.

All the best,

AndrewP

[LesleyB]

Hi Ailsa

The IGI record you list above is an extract so transcribed directly from a reliable source, such a parish record or a statutory birth entry. It may have been transcribed wrongly. The only way to find out if the year is correct would be to see the original. In this case it will be a parish record by the looks of things (the date is too early for statutory reocrds) You should be able to order the microfilm from your local LDS centre. (it costs about £2.70 to do this)

What ages does Jane give on the census in Scotland?
If she was born 1837, it seems to be pushing it a bit, though not impossible, to be having wee Jane in 1882... Could it perhaps be that this Jane you found is an elder sister who died, followed some years later by another child named Jane....or could there be more than one Jane with similarly named parents??

Best wishes
Lesley

[Currie]

Hello Ailsa,

In the Glasgow Herald, Tuesday, January 11, 1898 and also on the 12th there are articles about a court case for damages initiated by a crowd of pedestrians who were run over by a crowd of cyclists. One of those injured was an Elizabeth Macfarlane, needleworker, age 24, of 2 Stanley Terrace, Clydebank (a member of the Bible-class choir in connection with the Wesleyan Church at Clydebank) and a witness to the incident was a Dugald M’Farlane, a Turner, age 22, residing in Clydebank.

Is there any possible connection to yours?

Alan

[crayspond]

AndrewP,

The 1851 census has no image available but you kindly supplied me with the following on the 5th Nov this year.

Here is the Mcfarlane household in 1851.

Dumbarton Road Bruce Place, Partick (Govan parish)
Dugald McFarlane 35
Margaret McFarlane 31
Isabella McFarlane 14
Margaret McFarlane 7
James McFarlane 5
Dugald McFarlane 2
Elisabeth McFarlane 8 Mo
William Wylie 21 (lodger)

I haven't been able to find James's birth cert - but he pops up on the 1861 census with his sister Isabella Thompson age 16 which fits in with him being 5 in 1851.

Regards
Ailsa

[crayspond]

Hi LesleyB,

As i live in England i am not sure if the LDS centre will help me with Scottish extracts. I have tried to ring them a few times but it just rings out.
In the 1901 census Jane is 56 on her death cert she is 56 in 1904.
It did cross my mind as you say there may have been another Jane.

Ailsa

[LesleyB]

hi Ailsa
There is no problem ordering microfilms for any area. I live in Scotland and have ordered and viewed films at my local LDS centre on different occaisions which contained both English and Irish church records.

Check the opening hours of your local centre here (they may be closed at the times you are phoning):
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... et_fhc.asp

Best wishes
Lesley