Jessie H. Leamonth, b.a.1869, can't find birth

[littaol]

This is the family that Tracey found in 1871 - Robert seems to have remarried & Peter looks to have survived - also the family from the IGI
If Jessie who married in 1894 is this Janet Hume - she must have been confused about her father's name??

Trishn

Maybe a clue:

In 1906 William Wood and Jessie got a son, William and in this birth record she is listed as Jessie Hume Wood, born Learmonth.

[littaol]

1881 4 Devon Place St George Midlothian
Robert Learmouth 36 head born East Linton Haddingtonshire Flour Miller
Margaret H Learmouth 31 wife

Robert dies i 1881, so that also fits the story....

[emanday]

Regarding the name Jessie, I was not aware that it could be something else. At least not in the official documents. But you say that it might? It complicates things a bit.

Hi Litta,

A warm welcome from me too.

As you continue researching you'll find that a lot of names aren't always what you expect. The Janet/Jessie one is only one of many. For instance, Peter/Patrick has been mentioned on more than a few occasions! Name shortening doesn't always mean something as simple as Elizabeth/Eliza. My own mother was always known as Peggy, a common diminutive for Margaret. My aunt, also a Margaret used the name Betty, which is usually the short for Elizabeth! Other Margaret's sometimes use Pearl, which is what the name is supposed to mean.

Confusing I know!

Another thing worth looking out for. Scottish women didn't always use their married names and can often be found using their maiden names on censuses and other documents. There wasn't, and still isn't, a legal requirement for them to take their husband's name

[trish1]

Hi Litta

a few more items

1. The IGI is free - so you can search it any number of times, before paying at SP. It also equates the various spelling of names, so is sometimes easier to find people. So far I have found Learmonth spelt in 3 ways. The IGI contains an index to all the births in Scotland 1855-1874 and there are no children to be found at this time born to a James Learmount and Agnes Aitken.

2. When searching the Scottish records you can use * where unsure of the spelling - e.g. learm* will list all of the spellings we have found so far.

3. What was the occupation of Jessie's father on the 1894 marriage certificate - does it match with Robert or James on the census records - also the occupation of husband William - does it match the 1901 census below

4. James was 78 in 1886 - born about 1808 - Unless his wife was significantly younger than him, he was unlikely to still be having children in 1869.
Is this James and Agnes on the census
1881 - 109 Fountainbridge Edinburgh St Cuthberts
James Learmont 75 Iron founder - born Bothwell Lanark
Agnes Learmont 69 born St Cuthberts Edinburgh
1861 Same James(53) and Agnes(49) living with Alexander Aitken
Agnes would have been 57 by 1869 (or 55 in 1867) so she would surely not be the mother of a child born then.

5. Could Jessie have been unsure of her age? or simply subtracted a couple of years - as the most likely birth seems to be the one in 1867.

6.Could this be Jessie - back to being Janet H?
1901 Edinburgh Duddingston Midlothian
68 High Street
William Wood 36 born Railway store keeper Palhhead Ford??, Edinburgh
Janet H Wood 32 born Leith
Agnes Wood 3 born Portobello
Catherine Wood 1 born Portobello

Sorry to keep adding things - hope they are useful

Trish

[Tracey]

We quite often have discussions on here about possible alternative names used and i am sure there has been a Janet / Jessie one but can i find the post !

[littaol]

6.Could this be Jessie - back to being Janet H?
1901 Edinburgh Duddingston Midlothian
68 High Street
William Wood 36 born Railway store keeper Palhhead Ford??, Edinburgh
Janet H Wood 32 born Leith
Agnes Wood 3 born Portobello
Catherine Wood 1 born Portobello

Yes, Trish - thi is certainly helpful!! By the birth of William in 1906, they live in 68 High Street and the father is a Railway (something) Keeper. That really confirms that Janet H is my Jessie.

Fantastic! Thank you all!

Regarding IGI: I use it a lot, but I always try to confirm the information there by looking up the original source.

[nelmit]

Has this been posted? - apologies if it has.

JANET HUME LEARMONTH Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
14 NOV 1867 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Father: ROBERT LEARMONTH
Mother: AGNES HOGG

Regards,
Annette

Later ......................Sorry all -I see I'm way behind after reading through the post properly(just home from work) but I've left it in because you will be notified of a post! Just ignore me.

[AndrewP]

6.Could this be Jessie - back to being Janet H?
1901 Edinburgh Duddingston Midlothian
68 High Street
William Wood 36 born Railway store keeper Palhhead Ford??, Edinburgh
Janet H Wood 32 born Leith
Agnes Wood 3 born Portobello
Catherine Wood 1 born Portobello

For info: William's birthplace transcribed above should be Pathhead Ford in the County of Edinburgh (Midlothian).

All the best,

AndrewP

[littaol]

Thanks, Andrew

Nice to get the details right and I do face some difficulties when it comes to interpretation of the handwriting. Mostly because I am not familiar with the places, names and professions in this country.

Is there a forum for help with reading handwriting ? - and is it OK to do a snapshot of a part of a page in Scotlandspeople and show it here in order to get it translated ? I just wonder how rigid the copyrights are.

[nelmit]

Thanks, Andrew

Nice to get the details right and I do face some difficulties when it comes to interpretation of the handwriting. Mostly because I am not familiar with the places, names and professions in this country.

Is there a forum for help with reading handwriting ? - and is it OK to do a snapshot of a part of a page in Scotlandspeople and show it here in order to get it translated ? I just wonder how rigid the copyrights are.

Hi Litta,

Since Andrew's not here right now I can tell you that it's ok to upload an image for help with handwriting. Our Gallery isn't running at the moment so if you upload the whole image to photobucket (or similar) then post the link you'll get plenty of help.

Regards,
Annette