parents names on marriage cert....true or false??.....

[DavidWW]

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David - yes I understand - sorry, the way I wrote my reply obviously didn't make that clear, thanks very much. elmca

Nae prob

As much as anything else I was concerned that what I'd first written might not have been clear to all readers of the thread.

David

[elmca]

Hi again David,
thanks again - I have another wee query.....on one of the marriage certs I see it says D.D. (Decree of Declarator) I understand this is an Irregular Marriage and wonder why?? The marriage was between a widower and an unmarried mother.....who I reckon was pregnant at time of marriage (the things we dig up!) would this be the reason?! Thank u!

[Tracey]

Elmca

We have a set of "ficticious" parents too belonging to my dads "aunts and uncle". Their mother looks like she should be my gt grandmothers sister (by her name on thier marriage cert) but she does not exist. Also later on one of the "ficticious" parents children refers to my gt grandmother as "Aunt". Extensive searches have been done for the childrens births in the U.S (1916-19) but is suspected the names they were known as in Scotland were not their true birth names either. So you are not alone in this frustration

[DavidWW]

Hi again David,
thanks again - I have another wee query.....on one of the marriage certs I see it says D.D. (Decree of Declarator) I understand this is an Irregular Marriage and wonder why?? The marriage was between a widower and an unmarried mother.....who I reckon was pregnant at time of marriage (the things we dig up!) would this be the reason?! Thank u!

Wow !! That's from the highest civil court in Scotland, - the Court of Session. Most probably because a longer period that was allowed for the Sheriff Court to handle the matter had elapsed. Is there any clue in terms of the date of the "DD" marriage, and the dates of the births of kids!

And there will most probably be extant Session Court records relating to the process.

In other words, to formalise (not regularise !!) the marriage in terms of an entry in the statutory register of marriages, given the period of time that had elapsed since the date of the irregular marriage by declaration, the matter had to be taken up at the level of the Court of Session.

Please, pretty please, may I have a copy, or at least the names of parties and the date, as I haven't yet got a Session Court "DD" marriage register entry in my collection !!

David

[elmca]

Oh dear - I'm all a fluster now!
I am going on hols for a few days this week so will get back to you next weekend if that's OK. I hope I have got this right - it's just that under the section 6. 'If regular marriage etc.' it is signed 'James Black D.D.' and although I have had this extract for a while, I just noticed that bit recently.....this was in June 1869 and the child was born in July 1869!

Talk to you again next week, bye for now, elmca

[elmca]

Hi Tracy, just noticed you had posted a reply. It is obvious that our ancestors never in a month of sundays thought their future family would be raking around trying to find out where we came from or they would maybe have made things easier for us eh??!!
Happy searching

[Jack]

Hi Elmca,

I'd just been hoping that, as a child, great granny had been with her parents on a census or two to confirm their names as was on her DC, and not to leave you wondering if they were correct - and that the MC wasn't !
And that any siblings always had the same named parents.

Jack

[DavidWW]

Oh dear - I'm all a fluster now!
I am going on hols for a few days this week so will get back to you next weekend if that's OK. I hope I have got this right - it's just that under the section 6. 'If regular marriage etc.' it is signed 'James Black D.D.' and although I have had this extract for a while, I just noticed that bit recently.....this was in June 1869 and the child was born in July 1869!

Talk to you again next week, bye for now, elmca

Ah - disappointment , so it doesn't actually say "Degree of Declarator"? All that "D.D." means is that James Black, the officiating minister, was a Doctor of Divinity

David

[Tracey]

Hi Elmca
All part of the fun i suppose. Even i was getting exited and watching this post for the D D as i hadnt a clue what it was as was anxiously going over mine to see if i had one and couldnt believe it when you said you were going on holiday, it was a bit like when Chris Tarrant goes to a break on Who wants to be a Millionaire !!

[elmca]

Hi again, sorry to disappoint you all
what on earth though is a Doctor of Divinity?? That sounds rather more interesting than 'minister'!!

And the answer is Yes, I did check earlier census returns for g.granny and she does appear on census with parents as named in death cert.! you just still wonder a wee bit though if you have got it right.

Bye for now!