Another scrawly document needs help!.....

Post by **Tracey** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:51 pm

Thanks Jean

All is revealed now

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:59 pm

Hi Nina,
Was Catherine really a Matilda?
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MATILDA CATHERINE MOWATT
Birth: 26 DEC 1861 Clyde, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Parents:
JOHN MOWATT
ANN G.
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1881 Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: 8 Rowchester St
Source: FHL Film 0203633 GRO Ref Volume 644-2 EnumDist 16 Page 14
Annie MOWATT W 45 F Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Tailoress
Matilda C. MOWATT U 19 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Tailoress
Agnes MOWATT U 16 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Housekeeper
Mary Anne MOWATT 13 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar
Christina MOWATT 10 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar
John MOWATT 8 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
William MOWATT 6 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Georgina MOWATT 3 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau
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Jack

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:13 pm

I've cleaned the image up a bit to see if it helps

http://www.talkingscot.com/gallery/disp ... p?pos=-382

Jim

p.s. I think Catherine McCormack is m/s Tagg

k

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:00 am

Wow! Look what happened while I was sleeping!!!

Thanks so much everyone for the input on this certificate! And thanks for the clean up, Jim M!

It is amazing how other eyes can read this registrar's scrawl much better than I, but once I read your decipherings, the words jump out at me!

Now....Yes Catherine Mowatt was Matilda Catherine, Jack, but the only time I have seen it written in full is on her husband's death certificate. THANKS for the 1881! I didn't have Georgina, but the other children are on the IGI.

Catherine McCormick's maiden name is Tagg on this certificate, but has been also written as Tighe, Taigh, McTaigh, Mc Tighe, and a few others. No-one seemed to manage an accurate spelling of her maiden name.

The place of the marriage really had me stumped, as I really thought it said Dutch Presbyterian Chutch, which got me thinking that Tolcross Manse was really Tolrofs, and some Dutch place, hehe. I could kick myself over it!

But thanks again everyone, and sorry you couldn't see the image Tracey.
Don't know what happened there.

Nina

Post by **Tracey** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:18 am

Morning Nina !

I dont know what happened either but others were able to see it and as you say its amazing what can happen over night. Shame we cant wake up every morning with our problems solved

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Night from me though

Tracey

Post by **paddyscar** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:56 am

When, where and how married

1881 on the fifteenth day of July at Tolcross House, Parkhead, Glasgow after publication according to the forms of the United Presbyterian Church

Signatures of Parties

Signed Samuel McCormack, Tailor Inver------- (Bachelor)

Signed Catherine Mowatt, Tailoress (Spinster)

Age Both are 19 years

Usual Residence Both at 8 Rochester Street, Glasgow

Name, Surname and Rank or Profession of Father

James McCormack, , Jeweller (Inver------ same as above)

Name and maiden name of Mother

Catherine McCormack M.S. Tagg

Name, Surname and Rank or Profession of Father

John Mowatt Tailor (Journeyman) (deceased) and Annie Mowatt M.S. Gui---?

Signature of Minister & Witnesses

Signed William Auld, UP Church, Tolcross

Signed David McKinlay
Signed Janet McJames

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:06 am

paddyscar wrote:When, where and how married

Signed Samuel McCormack, Tailor Inver------- (Bachelor)

James McCormack, , Jeweller (Inver------ same as above)

.....lots snipped

That's Tailor (Journeyman) (Bachelor)

and Jeweller (Journeyman) as shown in Jack's earlier post.

Matilda Catherine's mother's maiden name is either GURD from Matilda's birth register entry, or GOURD from her parent's marriage register entry.

David

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:46 am

DavidWW wrote:
and Jeweller (Journeyman) as shown in Jack's earlier post.

David

Hi David
Nowadays we tend to think of a jeweller as a shop selling jewellery and watches etc.

k

Would I be correct in saying that a "jeweller journeyman" in this case is more likely to be a craftsman who makes pieces of jewellery..

Jim

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:23 am

JimM wrote:
DavidWW wrote:
and Jeweller (Journeyman) as shown in Jack's earlier post.

David
Hi David
Nowadays we tend to think of a jeweller as a shop selling jewellery and watches etc. k

Would I be correct in saying that a "jeweller journeyman" in this case is more likely to be a craftsman who makes pieces of jewellery..

Jim

Jim

Probably, yes.

David

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:08 pm

Thanks for the added interest in this post. Much appreciated.

David, the 'jeweller' in question, James McCormi(a)ck had numerous occupations according to his children's birth and marriage certificates (I have only found him with his family on the 1861 census but he is elsewhere on all the others - haven't ben able to trace him on any of them yet). One occupation was "jewellery hawker", and he also was a pottery hawker. So I am wondering if he made the jewellery himself or sold it for someone else, as was usual for hawkers, wasn't it? And I am thinking that the varying occupations ( others include commercial traveller, Draper's porter and slater's labourer) may have been because he wasn't skilled in any one area....would that be a correct assumption?

Nina