Jamieson and Campbell in Greenock.....

[Wendy]

Andy and Jack....thanks for the repliies...first off Andy I too am excited about the findings.....and Jack I have no idea yet will get into Scotland people site as soon as company has gone...so will find out if he was a joiner...be back soon with some answers...I HOPE

Wendy

[Wendy]

WEll this is the worst.....got my credits bought and can see the search results BUT will not display the images....just kill me...my popup blocker is off and it still says the popup is blocked.........any ideas.......???????
I really need someone to help me outta this mess...the answers are so close I can taste them........... so I have some searches already done and am ready to get the images when I can unlock the secret door........H E L P P L E A S E have tried everything I can think of...this computer hates me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Wendy

[DavidWW]

WEll this is the worst.....got my credits bought and can see the search results BUT will not display the images....just kill me...my popup blocker is off and it still says the popup is blocked.........any ideas.......???????
I really need someone to help me outta this mess...the answers are so close I can taste them........... so I have some searches already done and am ready to get the images when I can unlock the secret door........H E L P P L E A S E have tried everything I can think of...this computer hates me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Wendy

Wendy

It's most likely that your popup blocker is treating the little SP window "This is going to cost you 5 credits, Do you want to proceed 'Yes' or 'No'" as a popup.

Two possibilities, go into your profile in your SP account and change your profile where it asks if you want confirmation or not of a deduction of credits.

If that doesn't work, clear your InterNet Explorer History and Delete Cookies, reboot, check that your popup blocker is definitely off, then retry.

Davie

[Wendy]

Thanks Davie ...I actually had done exactly what you suggested and it finally worked...seems there was another popup program running which I had no idea about....
ANYWAY:
Andy...
John Jamieson's parents were indeed Alexander Jamieson and Ann Dunlop ...mother was deceased at the time of the marriage ....

Jack.....
John is listed as being a Joiner (journeyman)

Alexander is listed as a Joiner (master)

more after a few hours sleep


Wendy

[Jack]

Hi Wendy,

Computer owners don't have an easy life! But the nice relaxing family history more than makes up for it....
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1841 cens 564 Ed 18 p 7 (Greenock)
Alexander JAMIESON, 29, joiner
Ann 30
Ann 4
Walter 2
Alexander 1
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1851 census 564 (443) Ed 114 p 19 (Greenock)
Alexander JAMIESON 38
Ann 40
Ann 13
Alexander 10
John 7
George 4
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Jack

[Andy]

So the Hat is safe!

The 1841 census should show at least Alexander sr., Alexander jr., Ann, John and perhaps the mother Ann. The daughter, also Ann, died in 1859 aged 19. I suspect that the mother died before 1855. Alexander remarried Jane Boyle in 1860 (he fibbed about his age from then on). In the 1861 census you'll probably find the family around Brisbane Street.

Alexander, the father, died in 1870, listed as 53 he was actually closer to 59.

Alexander, the son who married Elizabeth Clark, died tragically young in 1868, his youngest son would have been one and a half.

There is an outside chance that Alexander's father, Walter, was still alive in 1841 and that he had remarried fairly late in life to Mary McAlpine, Alexander's mother, Margaret Spence and Walter were married in Erskine in 1798 and produced a good few children, including Alexander in 1811 and brother Robert Walter in 1820 (see census above).

As we've seen alot of the Jamiesons lived on Upper Kelly Street which adjoins South Street:

Dwelling: 12 South St
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203574 GRO Ref Volume 564-3 EnumDist 22 Page 26
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert JAMIESON M 40 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Joiner
Jessie JAMIESON M 32 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Walter JAMIESON 7 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Catherine JAMIESON 5 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Robert W. JAMIESON 2 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Samuel R. JAMIESON 8 m M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son

I suspect that Robert was the son of Walter, Alexander and Robert's brother who died in Greenock in 1866 but I'm not 100% sure of this.

If Davie looks in on this thread he may notice that these addresses are very close (IDENTICAL) to our pal Cassie's family in Greenock. The Rodgers and Inglis both stayed at 12 South Street!!!

The family originally lived at Holmscroft Street which adjoins Wellington Street:

Dwelling: 39 Wellington St
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203575 GRO Ref Volume 564-3 EnumDist 40 Page 28
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John R. JAMIESON M 36 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Venetian Blind Manufacturer (Employing 4 Men 1 Boy And 3 Women)
Alice J H R K JAMIESON M 28 F Portugal
Rel: Wife
Isabella K. JAMIESON 7 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Walter JAMIESON 5 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
James A. K. JAMIESON 6 m M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Maggie MC CUTCHEON 17 F Ireland
Rel: Servant
Occ: General Servant

The other street that adjoins Upper Kelly Street in Newton Street:

Dwelling: 46 Newton St
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203575 GRO Ref Volume 564-3 EnumDist 33 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas JAMIESON M 42 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Master Joiner
Janet JAMIESON M 32 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Robert M. JAMIESON 8 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Thomas JAMIESON 6 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Annabella JAMIESON 4 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: --
Daniel B. JAMIESON 2 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: --
Margaret MC DONALD U 25 F Tiree Island Of
Rel: Servant
Occ: Domestic Servant

AND

Dwelling: Newton St Glen Hill
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203575 GRO Ref Volume 564-3 EnumDist 32 Page 2
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Elizabeth JAMIESON W 57 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: None
Jessie A.S. JAMIESON U 25 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: None
Mary JAMIESON U 22 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: None
Agnes S. JAMIESON U 20 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: None
Jane JAMIESON U 17 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Scholar
Ellen RAIL U 30 F Limerick, Ireland
Rel: Servant
Occ: General Servant Domestic

Now this was Elizabeth Salmon and this branch of the Jamiesons I refer to as the Thom - Jamiesons. I can't see an immediated link to your family but they live so close there is likely to be a relationship. There was another daughter in this family Elizabeth McAuley Aird Jamieson:

Dwelling: 1 West Stewart St
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203574 GRO Ref Volume 564-3 EnumDist 18 Page 1
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert JAMIESON U 44 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Blacksmith
Isabella JAMIESON U 41 F Ireland
Rel: Sister
Occ: Housekeeper
Elizabeth M.A. JAMIESON U 17 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Niece
Occ: General Servant

Yet another Robert.

Back on Kelly Street and another of the Thom-Jamiesons:

Dwelling: 60 Upper Kelly Street
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203575 GRO Ref Volume 564-3 EnumDist 32 Page 11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Norman JAMIESON M 46 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Joiner(House)
Jessie JAMIESON M 47 F Musselburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Norman JAMIESON 7 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
William A. THOM U 32 M Coylton, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Procurator & Managing Clerk

You should have fun trying to work out if there is any relationships.

[Wendy]

CLARIFICATION FIRST PLEASE ANDY

The place in Inverness should be Waternish, the following McLean family were related to my paternal uncle's wife but I've got a feeling the McLeods and Margaret are related to yours (somehow):

Andy is the Margaret you refer to Margaret Spence...am somewhat confused.... (which in itself isn't all that unusual ) ... have so many names running through my wee brain don't know where to go next !!!!


Hello again...well Andy you of course were right and I have been going over the info you gave me...so have added new info:

Walter Jamieson and Margaret Spence were married 25 August 1798, Erskine, Refrew Scotland ......they had the following children:

Margaret Jamieson b. 3 June 1799 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Margaret Jamieson b. 2 June 1801 Erskine ,Renfrew ,Scotland
Walter Jamieson b. 20 June 1803 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Agnes Jamieson b. 15 July 1805 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Jean Dempster Jamieson b. 20 March 1808 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Barbara Dempster Jamieson b.14 August 1809 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Alexander Jamieson b.7 August 1811 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
George Dempster Jamieson b.14 August 1815 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Janet Jamieson b.27 November 1817 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland
Robert Walter Jamieson b. 17 December 1819 Erskine, Renfrew ,Scotland

Margaret Spence dies and Walter marries his second wife Mary McAlpine.

Alexander Jamieson b. 7 August 1811
marries Ann Dunlop 1835 in Greenock, Renfrew Scotland
They produced the following children :

Ann Jamieson 1838 Greenock , Refrew, Scotland
Walter Jamieson 1839 Greenock , Refrew, Scotland
Alexander Jamieson 1840 Greenock , Refrew, Scotland m. Elizabeth Clark
John Jamieson 1843 Greenock , Refrew, Scotland m. Flora Campbell
16 Nov 1866
George Jamieson 1847 Greenock , Refrew, Scotland

Ann Dunlop dies sometime before 1855....and Alexander marries his second wife Jane Boyle b. 1829 Kilmalcolm, Renfrew, Scotland
in 1860
The following children were born to this new union:
Robert Walter Jamieson b.06 Jul 1861 Erskine, Renfrew, Scotland
Martin Jamieson b.24 Jan 1863 Perth, Scotland
David Taylor Jamieson b.08 Sep 1864 Scotland

John Jamieson and Flora Campbell have the following children:

Mary Ann Jamieson b.13 Apr 1869 Greenock
Ann Dunlop Jamieson b.17 Feb 1871 Greenock
Jane Boyle Jamieson b.02 Nov 1872 Greenock
Catherine Mc D Jamieson b.19 Jul 1874 Greenock
George D. Jamieson b.1875 Greenock haven't gotten the date yet...
John Jamieson b. 1881 Greenock (haven't got the date yet...)d.19 Jun 1965 Rockhampton, Australia marries Joanna Spencer Anderson 15 Dec 1910 Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
John and Joanna Spencer Anderson Have the following children:

John Jamieson
William Jamieson b.30 Jul 1912
George Dempster Jamieson b.18 Jun 1916
Samuel Spencer Jamieson b.1920
Archibald Paterson Jamieson
Flora Campbell Jamieson b.25 Feb 1922

still working on this line...for more dates....
anyway off to do some more...
Jack thank you for the census information...
Did I mention that this forum ROCKS....
Wendy

[Jack]

Hi Wendy,

Some census details. The 1st may be father Walter - with Mary McAlpine?
Possibly the Dobbie girls are from Mary's side of the family?
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1841 cens 563 Ed 1 p 6 (Erskine)
Medenhead.
Walter JAMIESON, 60, wright to trade, b RFW
Mary JAMIESON, 60, --------- b SCT
Jennet DOBBIE, 14, -------- b SCT
Isabella DOBBIE, 9, -------- b SCT
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1841 564 Ed 18 p 7 (Greenock North)
Nelson St.
Alexr. JAMIESON, 29, joiner, b RFW
Ann JAMIESON, 30, ------- b RFW
Ann JAMIESON, 4
Walter JAMIESON, 2
Alexr. JAMIESON, 1
Charles MERLEES, 15, joiner ap., b RFW
[all children born RFW]
&
1851 cens 564-3 (443) Ed 114 p 19 (Greenock West)
53 Inverkip St.
Alex. JAMIESON, head, marr, 38, joiner, master emp. 4 men, 4 boys, b Erskine, RFW
Ann JAMIESON, wife, 40, --------- b Greenock, RFW
Ann JAMIESON, daur, 13, at home
Alex. JAMIESON, son, 10, --------
John JAMIESON, son, 7, scholar
Geo. JAMIESON, son, 4, at home
[all children born Greenock]
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1851 cens 564-2 (439) Ed 76 p 11 (Greenock West)
68 Nicholson St.
Robert JAMIESON, head, marr, 31, joiner, master emp 6 men, 4 apprs, b Erskine
Martain JAMIESON, wife, 31, ------------- b Perth, PER
Martain JAMIESON, daur, 9, scholar, b Greenock
Catherine CARMICHAEL, servant, u/m 20, house servant, b Islay, ARL
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Jack

[Jack]

Hi Andy,

These might be your THOM - JAMIESONs.
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1841 cens 564 Ed 43 p 9 (Greenock Middle)
Cathcart St.
Mary JAMIESON, 46, ind., b SCT
John JAMIESON, 24, carpenter j/m, b RFW [sic]
Norman JAMIESON, 8, ------- b RFW
Mary JAMIESON, 17, dressmaker, b RFW
Catharine JAMIESON, 11, -------- b RFW
&
1851 cens 564-1 (435) Ed 22 p 11 (Greenock Middle)
Cathcart St.
Norman JAMIESON, head, marr, 62, boatman, b Kilfinian? ARL
Mary JAMIESON, wife, 61, wife, --------- b Inverculan? ARL
John JAMIESON, son, u/m 34, carpenter, b ?Kerry Cowal? ARL
Norman JAMIESON, son, u/m 18, joiner, b Greenock
Catherine JAMIESON, daur, u/m 22, stay maker, b Greenock

[just couldn't make out the Argyll birthplaces - rather dull page]
--
Jack