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DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:38 pm

Russell wrote:Hi

Can I add to David's comments about wildcards.

I always look for Mc with M*c* I have been caught out several times by the transcription separating the Mac from the rest of the surname.

Russell
Hi Russell

Very good point :!:

Not often a matter of importance in the Scottish statutory BMD records, i.e. civil registration, but very often of critical importance in the OPR and other records, especially where the GSU/Mormons have been involved.

The GSU/Mormon transcription rules are that records should be transcribed exactly as they appear.

In the Scottish context this can have the critical effect that, if there appears to be a space between the "M[a]c" and the rest of the name, then the record is transcribed and indexed exactly like that.

In other words, let's imagine that the surname is McHOUGHMAGANDY ! :!: :wink:

If it appears to be the case in the OPR or other records that the name appears to be written with a space between the "M[a]c" and the "HOUGHMAGANDY", - i.e as M[a]c HOUGHMAGANDY, then it is quite possible that the record in question will be indexed under HOUGHMAGANDY rather than M[a]cHOUGHMAGANDY .......

In the OPR and other records it is quite commonly the case to find that there is a distinct space between the "M[a]c" and the rest of the name .... (that's also the case in the later civil registration records, but unusual in such records for the name to be indexed under the surname without the M[a]c in front....) and GSU/Mormon procedures will index the record on that basis !

Sometimes, when searching in IGI or BVRI, a search on a name starting with M[a]c will produce hits for the name without the M[a]c, but sometimes hits will only be found when searching on the basis of the name without the
M[a]c .......... in other words, don't restrict your search to M[a]cHOUGHMAGANDY, - but try also HOUGHMAGANDY :!: :wink:

David

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:52 pm

saroho wrote:Hello Jean,
Your the best, Ive been looking for that birh for about 6 months or more now, I think I will put in a complaint to Scotlands people I must of used at least 100 or more credits looking for it.Thanks Again
Sandra.
Hi Sandra

I think you might have gotten it yourself eventually as it really wasn't impossibly hidden....just needed to take that N off the end of the wildcard string!

Hope you get some good results from Scotlands People!! I'm counting on them to be nice to you after all you've been through! :D

Best wishes
Jean

saroho
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Post by saroho » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:47 pm

To Everyone out there Thank you for your Help and advice. Scotlands people have given me 30 credits back. This the most helpful site I have ever been on.

Sandra

StewL
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Post by StewL » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:21 am

Very happy to hear you got a good result from SP Sandra

I hadn't thought of Jeans search method, to tell you the truth at the time I had a look it never crossed my mind :oops:
Stewie

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