Death - Peter Nisbet Cunningham

[garibaldired]

Deaths Mar 1934 Cunningham Peter N 54 Dartford 2a 1085

As mb says there are not many details on an English death certificate but a phone call to the local record office may prove helpful. Often they will look and see if there any details to confirm whether he's your man or not.

Best wishes,
Meg

[LizzieS]

Sarah - the PNC you found is the son of the brother of the father of the PNC I'm looking for. If you can follow that

So... his first cousin then?!

Yes of course! Tying myself in knots over all theses Peter Nisbet Cunninghams!

Lizzie

[LizzieS]

Finger trouble this end as well, - I twice wrongly typed 1876 instead of 1879. Sorry !!

mb

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Think you then mistyped your correction to 1979! Glad its not just me. I did the same but noticed before I sent message.

Lizzie

[LizzieS]

What about this from FreeBMD:

Deaths Mar 1934 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cunningham Peter N 54 Dartford 2a 1085

Best wishes,
Meg

Thanks so much Meg. This is he =D>

I looked at BMD index and realized the death was registered in the first quarter of the year. Yesterday I trawled through some of the Obits in the Glasgow Herald for March but today took a more systematic approach and started in Jan. I found him in the paper of the 24th Jan1934! It states that he died on 19th Jan 1934 in Dartford and gives the name and address of his father - Peter Nisbet Cunningham of Northcote, Uddingston, which is correct. Then, baldly, Interred at Dartford.

I guess I'll never know why he was there but at least thats one mystery solved.

Many, Many thanks to all who put forward suggestions.

Lizzie

[Montrose Budie]

Hi Lizzie


Great to hear that you've brought this search to a conclusion.


As I felt that we hadn't paid sufficient respect to 2nd Lieut Peter N CUNNINGHAM, who died in 1917 in WWI, I looked up his details and established that he was the son of William CUNNINGHAM and Mary SCOTT; William being the son of Peter CUNNINGHAM and Jeannie McGHEE, variously Jane/Jean and McGHIE/McGHI.


And then I felt a wee aricle coming on ........ based on the value, but also the problems as regards the naming pattern traditions, as here, i.e. this is a perfect example of several sons, all 5 in this case, naming a son exactly after their father.


In the late 1800s there are 5 births of a Peter Nisbet CUNNINGHAM, all of which go back to the sons of Peter CUNNINGHAM and Jeannie McGHEE, - Robert, James, Peter, John, and William.


The middle name of NISBET goes back to the father's mother, - his 1890 Coatbridge death register entry in the name of Peter Nisbet CUNNINGHAM, a Foreman Engineer, at the age of 63, showing her as Elizabeth CUNNINHAM MS NISBET. .........


QED !


Later entries in the Scottish Birth indexes for a Peter Nisbet CUNNINGHAM are -

1914 CUNNINGHAM PETER NISBET M CATHCART (LANARK) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 633/0B 091
1915 CUNNINGHAM PETER NISBET M OLD MONKLAND (WESTERN DISTRICT) /LANARK 652/01 030
1918 CUNNINGHAM PETER NISBET M BELLSHILL /LANARK 625/03 014
1923 CUNNINGHAM PETER NISBET M CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK 628/00 025
1948 CUNNINGHAM PETER NISBET BR[*] M CONSULAR RETURNS / 171/CL 0339
1957 CUNNINGHAM PETER NISBET S M[*] KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/07 021

[In relation to the last two entries above, note that the number of characters in the given name field is limited to 16, after which the given name is truncated.]


I'd put serious money on most, if not all, of the above being related.


That written, I have to confess that I've seen some quite weird coincidences in the last


Interesting to note that one of these records, - 'Consular Returns', - was somewhere abroad.


mb

[Montrose Budie]

Finger trouble this end as well, - I twice wrongly typed 1876 instead of 1879. Sorry !!

mb

Think you then mistyped your correction to 1979! Glad its not just me. I did the same but noticed before I sent message.

Lizzie[/quote]

Such 'finger trouble' is very difficult to avoid, however much you do your best to check, re-check, and re-re-checks posts ...............

mb

[SarahND]

=D> Hooray Meg!!!

Whew! Glad this one is solved!

Best wishes,
Sarah

[garibaldired]

Glad to have been able to help!

Best wishes,
Meg

[AndrewP]

Hi Lizzie,

Another PNC that shows up is PNC Wightman, who died in WWI.

From the CWGC:

• Name WIGHTMAN, PETER NISBET CUNNINGHAM
  Rank Private
  Service Number 32472
  Date of Death 23/07/1918
  Age 19
  Regiment / Service King's Own Scottish Borderers
  Service Country United Kingdom
  Grave / Memorial Reference II. B. 6.
  Cemetery / Memorial Name BUZANCY MILITARY CEMETERY

From the SNWM:

• Surname WIGHTMAN
  Firstname Peter Nisbet Cunningham
  Service Number 32472
  Date Death 23/07/1918
  Decoration
  Place of birth Mossend Lanark
  Other 7/8th Bn.
  SNWM roll THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
  Rank Pte
  Theatre of death

Also listed on http://www.inmemories.com/Cemeteries/buzancy.htm .

All the best,

AndrewP

[trish1]

When doing some searching I found a Peter Nisbet Cunningham, engineer on the Australian electoral roles - only the once - living at Gordon (a suburb of Sydney) NSW - with a Patricia Cunningham in 1954. Found no further trace - perhaps they came here and went back to UK.

The Scottish naming patterns have given me problems in the late 1700s - early 1800s - finding many cousins with the same names and having difficulty working out who belonged to the corresponding marriages c. 25 years later. Fortunately some lived past 1855 - but others didn't.

An interesting thread this one has been

Trish