I'm stuck....maybe someone can help?

Post by **emanday** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:17 pm

The census stuff is from Ancestry.co.uk

It is a subscription site but I think you can still do a free trial period, although I don't know what that will give you access to.

They have transcripts of all the Scottish censuses, but not the images.

Anihana · Post by **Anihana** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:27 pm

So I have pretty much confirmed it's GEORGE THOMSON who married ANN THOMSON (Maiden name BIRNIE)

This appears to be the 1st sign I can find of them:

Piece: SCT1841/258 Place: Fetteresso -Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Fetteresso Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 7 Page: 17
Address: Kempstone Hill

THOMSON George M 39 Agricultural Labourer Kincardineshire
THOMSON Ann F 34 Kincardineshire
THOMSON Ann F 13 Kincardineshire
THOMSON Alexr M 12 Kincardineshire THOMSON Elspet F 9 Kincardineshire
THOMSON George M 7 Kincardineshire
THOMSON James M 4 Kincardineshire THOMSON Joseph M 1 Kincardineshire

Anihana · Post by **Anihana** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:13 pm

Above

Post by **emanday** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:30 pm

Best I can do...

Dec 19th
James Thomson in ?Pishinlin? had his son George baptised
Witnesses were David Kinnear, tenant in Mains of Drum and David Milne, smith at ?Glenfarq?

I always try to find out if witnesses (like Messrs Kinnear and Milne here) might have married females of the family. I've found a few previously unknown siblings this way.

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:30 pm

I would guess Glenfarquhar since it is written in full in the first entry on the page.
As for

?Pishinlin?

It might be possible to locate a farm or steading of that name - or similar - on old-maps .co.uk . some of the other names on the page might also show up. ( Sorry I couldn't look it up for you but 'flu has addled my concentration)

Russell

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:53 pm

Anihana wrote:
JustJean wrote:A further look for the family on the 1851 census finds what I think is them minus James
So it would be pretty safe to say that the George, Jane, & Joseph the kids? As in James brother & Sister? How come dad (George) isn't listed under "household members" in that census?

and this is that same household from 1841...

Alexr Thomson abt 1829 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
Ann Thomson abt 1807 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
Ann Thomson abt 1828 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
Elspet Thomson abt 1832 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
George Thomson abt 1802 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
George Thomson abt 1834 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
James Thomson abt 1837 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
Joseph Thomson abt 1840 Kincardineshire, Scotland Fetteresso Kincardineshire 258
Ann & George x 2.....Mum, Dad & two kid's named the same? The rest kids?

Where did you get the census info from?

Cheers
Anihana

Hi Anihana

Sorry for blowing right past your question to me on this one

...for some reason I never saw it until now!

The 1851 census data I obtained from Ancestry after viewing the DC of who I strongly believed to be James's mother Ann Thomson mn BIRNIE. When I didn't find a James with her I fell back to the same household in 1841 where there is a James that fits the profile of your James. Also there is what appears to be parents of George and Ann and several offspring. Since no family relationships are stated on the 1841 it's an assumption they were all children of George and Ann. I obtained the listing of these folks from ancestry.com also by viewing all people found on that census page. The originals as well as the DC for Ann are all available via pay per view on Scotlandspeople but I haven't accessed them except for the DC which gave me the info I needed to work backwards to this point. George is not listed on the 1851 as I believe he was deceased by then.

Hope this was helpful

Best wishes
Jean

Post by **AndrewP** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:05 pm

Hi Anihana,

Pishinglins can be found on the 1822 map at:

http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/483.html
Click on the thumbnail image of the map of Kincardineshire.
Click in the centre of the map.
Fordoun Parish should be towards the bottom left of that map section - click on it to zoom in.
Zoom in on the gap between the words Fordoun and parish.
Look at the place names above that gap.
Pishinglins is amongst these, just above Glenfarquhar Mains.

Or if you are having trouble locating it:
--> close up of 1822 map <--

All the best,

AndrewP

ROY M · Post by **ROY M** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:42 am

Hi Anihana
I was looking through the posts for St.Cyrus and saw yours. I know it's a few months old but I found something that may help.
I have a copy, from the Church Records, of a census the minister did in 1798-1799.
At this time at Whitehill in the Parish of St.Cyrus was this familly.

James Thomson Labour
Mary Alexander Wife
William Thomson Children
Janice Thomson Children

There were four other famillies at Whitehill,
Alexander-Rae-Burness & Beattie

Hope this is of some help.

Anihana · Post by **Anihana** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:12 am

ROY M wrote:Hi Anihana
I was looking through the posts for St.Cyrus and saw yours. I know it's a few months old but I found something that may help.
I have a copy, from the Church Records, of a census the minister did in 1798-1799.
At this time at Whitehill in the Parish of St.Cyrus was this familly.

James Thomson Labour
Mary Alexander Wife
William Thomson Children
Janice Thomson Children

There were four other famillies at Whitehill,
Alexander-Rae-Burness & Beattie

Hope this is of some help.

Heya

Interesting.....so if I were to link that with what I have so far I might think that could be George's mother, father, brother, and sister!?

I can't for the life of me work out hos to get past George & Ann. I can't find either of their BIRTH or Marriage records

Cheers
KiwiMR2

Anihana · Post by **Anihana** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:39 am

emanday wrote:Best I can do...

Dec 19th
James Thomson in ?Pishinlin? had his son George baptised
Witnesses were David Kinnear, tenant in Mains of Drum and David Milne, smith at ?Glenfarq?

I always try to find out if witnesses (like Messrs Kinnear and Milne here) might have married females of the family. I've found a few previously unknown siblings this way.

I found this.....and the date's match (based on the fact the 1841 census say's SON george was 7 years old...making him born around 1834)

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... 4friendly=

I can't think how this might help me go backwards though

Cheers
KiwiMR2