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which one?

Post by crayspond » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:51 pm

I have been looking at John Beveridge birth cert on SP a near match would be the Inverkeithing one but they look alike except one - has anyone any idea why and which would be the best bet.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/searc ... sults.aspx
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Ailsa

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Post by Tracey » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:09 pm

Hi Ailsa

The link doesnt link up to the results on SP quite possibly because it would give away some of your personal details.
It might be easier to copy and paste the details.

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Post by crayspond » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:14 pm

Hi Tracey,

Thanks for that i have pasted below,



No Date Surname Forename Parent Names/Frame No. Sex Parish City/County GROS Data
1 24/01/1725 BEVERADGE JOHN ANDREW BEVERADGE/JANET CRAIG FR334 M Anstruther Easter /FIFE 402/ 0020 0050
2 06/03/1720 BEVERAGE JOHN JAMES BEVERAGE/HELLEN TOD FR121 M Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE 456/ 0010 0118
3 29/03/1724 BEVERAGE JOHN JAMES BEVERAGE/ELIZABETH HOGGAN U Burntisland /FIFE 411/ 0020 0099
4 01/10/1727 BEVEREGE JOHN RICHARD BEVEREGE/KATHARIN MATHIE M Auchtermuchty /FIFE 406/ 0010 0067
5 07/01/1722 BEVERIDGE JOHN WILLIAM BEVERIDGE/ISABLE ORROCK FR257 M Falkland /FIFE 428/ 0020 0053
6 18/07/1725 BEVERIDGE JOHN JOHN BEVERIDGE/ U Strathmiglo /FIFE 457/ 0010 0009
7 04/01/1726 BEVERIDGE JOHN JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL M Inverkeithing /FIFE 432/ 0010 0205
8 04/01/1726 BEVERIDGE JOHN JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL M Inverkeithing /FIFE 432/ 0050 0097
9 04/01/1726 BEVERIDGE JOHN JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL M Inverkeithing /FIFE 432/ 0050 0097

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Post by AndrewP » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:24 pm

Hi Ailsa,

The three Inverkeithing ones seem to be for the same event. The two with the same number are a bit odd - they give you the same page. If you pay for one, the other will then be listed as paid too. The single one will be charged for separately. I had a peek at each of the Inverkeithing ones. The one which is listed once looks more like the rough notes and the one that appears twice is the more formally written one.

(I think) A clue can be found in the list of OPRs from GROS's website.
  • 432. INVERKEITHING
    . 432/1 ... B 1675-1774 ... M 1676-1710 ... D 1702-10
    . 432/2 ... B 1772-1819 ... M 1748-1819 ... D 1783-84
    . 432/3 ... B - ... ... ... ... ... M 1698-1749 ... D 1698-1843
    . 432/4 ... B 1820-54 ... ... M 1820-54 ... ... D -

    #432/5 ... B 1710-1744 ... M 1711-1718 ... D 1711-1717

    # Formerly CS96/3152 (from the series of Court of Session miscellaneous productions)
My feeling is that one of these images on ScotlandsPeople is from the regular Parochial Register, and the other is from the one from the court papers.

All the best,

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Post by crayspond » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:53 pm

Thanks for looking at it Andrew P. I think then i will view one of the records that are both the same as the rough copy might be a bit hard to read.

Thanks,

Ailsa

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Post by crayspond » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:36 pm

Hi Andrew P,

I looked on the Birth cert but disappointing that it doesn't really tell any more than the names i already know. I did search for John Beveridge and Janet Bell marriage anf came back with the below:
1 05/12/1728 BEVERADGE JOHN HELEN BROUN/ M Kilconquhar /FIFE 436/ 0020 0409
2 12/10/1701 BEVERAGE JOHN MARGARET BROUGH/FR1349 M Edinburgh EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/001 0450 0103
3 07/10/1711 BEVERAGE JOHN ANNE FAIRNY/FR219 M Abdie /FIFE 400/ 0010 0424
4 12/06/1708 BEVEREGE JOHN MARY HIDLESTONES/FR413 M Gordon /BERWICK 742/ 0020 0065
5 24/11/1718 BEVERIDGE JOHN GRISELL MICHI/FR1377 M Dalgetty /FIFE 422/ 0020 0402
6 05/11/1727 BEVERIDGE JOHN ANN BEVERIDGE/FR558 M Inchture /PERTH 359/ 0030 0185
7 28/08/1727 BEVERIDGE JOHN ELISABATH DOUGLAS/ M Dalgetty /FIFE 422/ 0020 0410
8 14/07/1730 BEVERIDGE JOHN JEAN BEAVERIDGE M Fossoway and Tulliebole /KINROSS 461/ 0020 0539
9 20/08/1731 BEVERIDGE JOHN GRISSELL SYMSON/ M Dalgetty /FIFE 422/ 0020 0416
10 13/11/1735 BEVERIDGE JOHN HELEN KILNLOCH/ M Dalgetty /FIFE 422/ 0020 0417
11 05/11/1702 BEVRADGE JOHN EUPHAN BEVRADGE/FR155 M Strathmiglo /FIFE 457/ 0020 0017
12 05/11/1702 BEVRADGE JOHN EUPHAME BEVRADGE/FR155 M Strathmiglo /FIFE 457/ 0020 0017
13 20/10/1727 BEVRADGE JOHN JANET BEVRADGE M Fossoway and Tulliebole /KINROSS 461/ 0020 0536
14 23/12/1712 BEVRAGE JOHN ISOBEL LOW/ M Auchterderran /FIFE 405/ 0010 0131
15 04/10/1727 BEVRIDGE JOHN ANN BEVRIDGE/FR38 M Portmoak /KINROSS 464/ 0010 0034
16 21/11/1729 BEVRIDGE JOHN MARRION MURDOCH/FR1617 M Edinburgh EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/001 0470 0022

Any clues which one?
Ailsa

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Post by CatrionaL » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:33 pm

9 20/08/1731 BEVERIDGE JOHN GRISSELL SYMSON/ M Dalgetty /FIFE 422/ 0020 0416

They had a son, John born in 1732.

Their son William married one of my Livingstons, Bessie.

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Catriona

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Post by crayspond » Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:26 am

Hi Catriona,

Nice to hear from someone who has a shared interest! alas my John Beveridge was born circa 1726. They tended not to move too far away and most of the ones i have found lived in Dunfermline. As i go further back i am going slightly away from Dunfermline that's why i am sure this John and Janet Bell are the right ones (on his birth cert). It is in Inverkeithing which is close (i think) to Dunfermline.
I thought they would come up on the search i posted but maybe they didn't get married.
I will try and see if any other children surface.
If i find a link to you Catriona i will let you know.

Ailsa

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Post by AndrewP » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:09 am

crayspond wrote:... As i go further back i am going slightly away from Dunfermline that's why i am sure this John and Janet Bell are the right ones (on his birth cert). It is in Inverkeithing which is close (i think) to Dunfermline.
Hi Ailsa,

Inverkeithing was one of the adjoining parishes to Dunfermline.

http://www.thefifepost.com/map.htm

All the best,

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Post by crayspond » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:36 pm

Thanks Andrew P,
That is a good map thanks, i am 95% that i am on the right track i think looking for his siblings and tying them in is the only thing short of going to the parishes.

Ailsa