Can't read MC & DC very well

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:47 pm

Hi:)

I have 2 records that I can't read very well at all:

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1478

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1477

dennis

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:54 pm

Here's my attempt at the death certificate:

Agnes Bowes or Goudie, Housewife, Married
1920 About 9.30 o'clock am on 12th June 1920,
within 2 Elmbank Buildings, John Street, Dunoon,
Usual residence 177 Claythorn Street, Glasgow.
F, 56 years.
Father: Alexander Bowes, Shoemaker, Deceased
Mother: Margaret Bowes, M.S. Galloway, Deceased
Natural Causes, probably Heart Failure.
Registered on the information of Andrew R Nimmo, Procurator Fiscal.
Registered: 1920 August 19th at Dunoon, John Dobie, Registrar.

All the best,

AndrewP

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:10 pm

And the marriage certificate:

1883, on the Thirteenth day of July at 17 Westercraigs, Dennistoun, Glasgow
after Banns according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland.
(signed) William Goudie, Ironmoulder (apprentice) (bachelor), age 21
76 Kirk Street, Calton, Glasgow
(signed) Agnes Bowes, Confectionery Worker (spinster), age 19
76 Kirk Street, Calton, Glasgow
James Goudie, Engine Keeper (deceased) and Janet Goudie, M.S. McCross__
Alexander Bowes, ___ ____ cutter and Margaret Bowes, M.S. Galloway
(signed) John Murray, Calton
(signed) Alexander J C Bowes, Witness
(signed) Alice Bowes, Witness
July 16th at Glasgow. T W(?) Ferguson, Registrar

All the best,

AndrewP

PS - I took a peek at his death certificate. His mother's maiden surname is not much clearer there either. It looks like it may be McCrossery.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:33 am

Hi Dennis
I can't really see the image very clearly as it is so small but I can see:
Alexander Bowes, ___ ____ cutter (journeyman)

Best wishes
Lesley

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:30 am

Hi Lesley:)

Vista isn't letting me dl the image directly from SP so I had to use another app 'captureWiz' to extract the part I needed from a smaller image. I just enlarge the image to see it in a 'normal' size. I sent off a contact form re William's mom's maiden name.

All the best. dennis

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:32 am

LesleyB wrote:Hi Dennis
I can't really see the image very clearly as it is so small but I can see:
Alexander Bowes, ___ ____ cutter (journeyman)

Best wishes
Lesley

Hi all,

Pretty sure it's Boot Top Cutter.

As were a few of mine.

Regards,
Annette

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:37 am

This looks as though it could be her brother in 1881.

Dwelling: 34 St Andrews St
Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203647 GRO Ref Volume 644-5 EnumDist 57 Page 15
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Alexander (Jnr) BOWES M 22 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Boot Top Cutter Unemployed
Alice BOWES M 20 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Job Buyer
Elizabeth BOWES U > 3 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur

Chris Paton · Post by **Chris Paton** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:05 pm

Some of my lot worked as boot top cutters for R & J Dick at the Greenhead factory at that time, just off Glasgow Green, which may have been a possible place where Alexander Bowes might have worked. They made synthetic shoes from guttapercha resin, hence the word "gutties". There's a bit about the firm on my family history website at http://chrispatonscotland.tripod.com/id63.html . My great uncle William Paton and my great great uncle Joseph Woodroffe Paton both worked as boot top cutters for the firm. When William was laid off in the late 1920s he set up his own cobbling business.

My great grandfather started there with the firm on an apprenticeship in the early 1880s, and ended up managing three shoe shops for them in Brussels, Belgium, but he sadly lost his life after a year and a half into the war whilst hiding from the Germans, who had started interning British civilians at the start of the war. The Mitchell Library does not hold many records on the firm, mainly just AGM papers, though I did find a record of my great granddad's death in these during a discussion by the company on how the war was affecting their continental assets. There is a book though, called "100 Years of Guttapercha", which deals with the firm's history.

Hope this might help!

Chris

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:26 pm

Hi:)

SP sent me a re-scanned image of William's DC and although the image is better I can't find anything on his mother. When William married in 1883 his dad was deceased but not his mother. Also, There's an 1891 census for William & Agnes an their brood but not for 1901.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1479

All the best. dennis

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:09 pm

Dennis wrote:Hi:)

SP sent me a re-scanned image of William's DC and although the image is better I can't find anything on his mother. When William married in 1883 his dad was deceased but not his mother. Also, There's an 1891 census for William & Agnes an their brood but not for 1901.
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1479

All the best. dennis

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

Hi Dennis,

Looks like his surname is indexed as Gaudie in 1901.

Regards,
Annette