Help deciphering death cert

[cadmium]

I'm having trouble reading the parents names for my Ann Mcmaster nee Thomson, so I've uploaded the death certificate to the gallery, perhaps someone can try read it? I'm not sure how to link it, though.

It looks like the occupation is joiner, journeyman and the surname is Thomson but I'm not sure about the forename.

Also, the mother is Margaret but I can't read the last name. McCormat? Is that even a surname?

If someone could also try read the Gourock address she died at, I'd be grateful.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1498

Thanks

Mi

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

[AndrewP]

Hi Mi,

I make the details of this entry as:

Ann Mcmaster, Widow of Hugh McMaster, School Teacher
1872 November Seventeenth at 5h pm,
3 Mount Pleasant Street, Greenock (corrected after seeing Annette's reply below)
F, 70 Yrs.
John Thomson, Joiner (Journeyman & Feuar), (dec.)
Margaret Thomson, M.S. McConnel (dec.)
Old Age, Not Certified
R G Macmaster, son, 57 Richard St, Glasgow
1872 Nov 21st at Greenock
James _ Colquhoun, Assistant Registrar; RAB

The maiden surname McConnel can be supported by Ann's birth entry in Kirkoswald in 1803 (assuming this is the right one tracing back from the 1827 marriage of Hugh McMaster and Ann Thomson in Kirkoswald).

All the best,

AndrewP

[nelmit]

I'm having trouble reading the parents names for my Ann Mcmaster nee Thomson, so I've uploaded the death certificate to the gallery, perhaps someone can try read it? I'm not sure how to link it, though.

It looks like the occupation is joiner, journeyman and the surname is Thomson but I'm not sure about the forename.
John Thomson joiner ? journeyman + feuar

Also, the mother is Margaret but I can't read the last name. McCormat? Is that even a surname?
McConnel

If someone could also try read the Gourock address she died at, I'd be grateful.
5 (could be 3) Mount Pleasant Street

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1498

Thanks

Mi

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

Regards,
Annette

[nelmit]

Could this be John in 1841?

1841 Census
3 Records found

Piece: SCT1841/601 Place: Kirkoswald -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 18
Civil Parish: Kirkoswald Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kirkoswald
Folio: 18 Page: 3
Address: Kirkoswald

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
THOMSON John M 60 Carpenter Ayrshire
THOMSON Sarah F 25 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Thomas M 6 Ayrshire

regards,
Annette

[nelmit]

Here is John's neighbour

1841 Census
3 Records found

Piece: SCT1841/601 Place: Kirkoswald -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 18
Civil Parish: Kirkoswald Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kirkoswald
Folio: 18 Page: 3
Address: Kirkoswald

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCMASTER Alex M 50 Shoemaker Ayrshire
MCMASTER Elisabeth F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
MCMASTER Robert M 20 Ap. Shoemaker Outside Census County (1841)

[cadmium]

Thanks for the transcriptions!

And that does look like him in Kirkoswald! The later line was around that area so it makes sense for him to have lived there.

I wonder what became of his wife, and why there's a 6 year old with a different surname?

Thanks for all your help,

Mi

[AndrewP]

I wonder what became of his wife, and why there's a 6 year old with a different surname?

My best guesses are his wife was already dead by 1841, and the 6-year-old was a grandchild by a daughter married to a Mr Guthrie. Unfortunately these can only be guesses as the 1841 census does not give relationships between people, or show if they were married or widowed.

All the best,

AndrewP

[nelmit]

Hello Mi,

I don't know if you've ever visited the brilliant Maybole website. I have, many times, as it's where my dad's family lived.

Your Hugh gets a mention in the 1837 directory.

Regards,
Annette

[cadmium]

Ooh, thanks Annette! I'd browsed the website briefly before, but I was looking at the statistical accounts of Kirkoswald, so I never spotted this. Thanks!

[Currie]

Could the time of death be 9h 5m pm?

Alan