Help deciphering Marriage certificate, please

BarbR · Post by **BarbR** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:28 pm

Just wondered if anyone is able to decipher the maiden name of Jane Crawford's mother on this certificate. On 1881 census Jane states she was born Roscommon Ireland - if that is any help, it may be more of an Irish name than Scots

Anyway, I appreciate your taking a look at it once it is approved and posted in the gallery.

Thanks
Barbara

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Post by **Ina** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:52 pm

Hi Barbara,

It looks like Sceales to me, but I'm wondering if it might just be Scales.

The Irish book of surnames gives the following definition of the name Scales:

Scales: This is not a toponymic but a locative name (meaing dweller at the huts) of Anglo-Norman origin, in Co. Limerick since the fourteenth century, and still found in Co. Clare. Schoales, found in south Ulster is a variant.

Regards,

Ina

BarbR · Post by **BarbR** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:05 pm

Thanks Ina,
Those were the two names I was trying to decide between as well. I'm not familiar with Sceales as a name, but in genealogy I keep learning new things and was open to anything

Alcluith · Post by **Alcluith** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:06 pm

Hi Babara,
like Ina looks like Sceales but most likely Scales.
If you look on SP for deaths in 1884 for Ann Crawford you will find a 76 year old in Edinburgh with the maiden names Scales. this could be your mother?

Worth a check on the 1881 census also
Drew

BarbR · Post by **BarbR** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:19 pm

Thanks Drew,

On 1881 Ann is aged 78, widowed and listed as Mother-in-law living with William and Ann and family at 2 Lauriston place, Edinburgh.

I will check out the death on SP as the age difference is minimal.

Appreciate your help.

Barbara

Alcluith · Post by **Alcluith** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:47 pm

Barbara,

Jane's age is also different from the marriage to the 1881 census

regards

Drew

BarbR · Post by **BarbR** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:49 pm

Must have been a man answering the enumerator that day

Barbara

BarbR · Post by **BarbR** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:38 pm

I have had a look at the death certificate for Ann Crawford now. Her maiden name is definately Scales - it's much clearer on this than Jane's marriage. The informant is her son William. For fathers surname, rank or profession it just has __________ Scales _________, so guess he didn't know much about his grandfather!

Just to keep the name mystery afloat I found the 1902 death of Jane Laidlaw M.S. Crawford. Her parents are listed as William Crawford and Ann Crawford M.S. Sceals

I wonder if it was all in the pronunciation?

Barbara

Post by **Ina** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:49 am

Hi Barbara,

The clerk wrote the name as it sounded. If they had an Irish accent it may have been hard to understand them. I have found my Irish Moran's listed as: Moran/Mourne/Morn/Moren/Morne.

When I was growing up in Scotland my name was always pronounced Mourne (like the mountains). It wasn't until I came to the USA that we got fancy and prounced it at Moran.

Regards,

Ina

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Help deciphering Marriage certificate, please

Help deciphering Marriage certificate, please

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