Helen George

[frances]

Helen George born 30th May 1797 in Watten, parents George George and Catharin Mofet.

Helen marries James Cameron 30th May 1833 in Aberdeen.

James then marries a Margaret Ross in 1855. Marriage certificate shows Helen as deceased. Probelm is I cannot find her Death . Any help much appreciated.

Frances

[trish1]

Apologies if you already have this - might help limit the burial searching

I find 2 children on the IGI baptised St Nicholas Aberdeen Charles 1835 and Alexander 1838, born to James Cameron and Helen George

In 1841 - if the right family -
James Cameron 40 labourer N
Helen Cameron 30 N
Chas C Cameron 6 Y
Alex Cameron 3 Y
In a very large establishment - address only given as Commerce St Aberdeen St Clements - poor house or similar?

I can't yet find them in 1851 - still looking

Trish

[nelmit]

This looks like them in 1851 at Chapel Lane, Aberdeen East-

James Cammeron 52 born Elgin, Coal Labourer
Margaret Cammeron 34
Charles Cammeron 16
Alexander Cammeron 13
Isabell Cammeron 4
William Cammeron 13
Hugh Cammeron 7

Regards,
Annette

[frances]

Thanks Trish & Annette,,

Had them in the 1841 C, will see if I can establish what St Clements was.

Yes, that looks like them in the 1851 C. Can now narrow Helen's death down to betweeen 1851 and 1855.

Thanks again for help.

Frances

[frances]

Should read things properly.

1851 C James with second wife Margaret. Marriage certificate has there Marriage date as 1855 !!!!!

Back to the drawing board.

Frances

[nelmit]

Should read things properly.

1851 C James with second wife Margaret. Marriage certificate has there Marriage date as 1855 !!!!!

Back to the drawing board.

Frances

Who was Margaret's first husband?

You'd have to figure out who the younger children belong to and that should narrow it down a bit. I am assuming (tut tut) that William is Margaret's son.

So who are the parents of Hugh and Isabella?

Regards,
Annette

[frances]

Hi Annette,

On her marriage to James Cameron in 1855 Margaret is a spinster. The first two children on the 1851 c Charles and Alexander are the children of Charles and his first wife Helen .

I have looked for the births of the other children Isabell, William and Hugh in the Aberdeen area without any success. The only possibility I have come up with is an illegitimate birth for a George William Ross baptised 1849 in Old Machar (can't quite make out Williams age in the 1851 c).

Then looked at the 1861c . James still with Margaret, Alexander, Isabella and William and another child Andrew aged 3. No sign of Hugh. Found Charles elsewhere with his wife.

Looks to me as if Isabell, William and Hugh were all illegitimate

Any other ideas wher to look ?

Thanks again for all help

Frances

[speleobat2]

Frances,

Have you checked this marriage:

66. ISEBALA CAMERON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 12 JUL 1867 Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland


It's to David Martin.

Carol

[trish1]

The children's ages 51/61 are a little weird (on my transcripts)

Ages in 1861
Isabella 20
William 14
Andrew 3

Ages in 1851
Isabell 4
William 13
Hugh 7

Then I looked on SP Index for 1851 and the ages there are Isabell 4, William 4 and Hugh 2. I am still not having much joy finding any baptisms.

Isabella seems to have gained many years 1851-1861 and from the IGI (civil registration) Andrew may be her child.
ANDREW CAMERON Birth 24 JUN 1858 Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland Parents Mother ISABELLA CAMERON

Trish

[frances]

Thanks for all suggestions--- the plot thickens as they say

Will keep looking, especially for Helen's death.

Frances