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N.J.U.O.A.

Post by frances » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:22 pm

I have come across a birth certificate which has the above letters written after the mother's maiden name. Anyone any idea what they mean ? :?

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by LesleyB » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:11 pm

Hi Frances
I have come across a birth certificate which has the above letters written after the mother's maiden name. Anyone any idea what they mean ?
Can you give us some context please:
Date of the event? Registration district? Names of persons ; child, mother, father (as long as this is not after our cut off date of 1909)? Without a few clues to put the item in context we are unlikley to be able to shed much light on this, I think....

Best wishes
Lesley

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by frances » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:38 pm

Hi Lesley,

Sorry should have put some more info.

The birth is for a Thomas Greenlees 16/7/1895 in Paisley.
Father Thomas Greenlees
Mother Margaret E C Millar MS Cumming.
1894 April 18th
Newark and then the letters N.J.U.O.A.

Any help appreciated


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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by LesleyB » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:43 pm

My guess is New Jersey, USA
(Newark is in New Jersey) :D

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by frances » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:01 pm

Did wonder about Newark :o --- very interesting.

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by AndrewP » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:38 pm

Hi Frances,

I've had a look at the birth certificate. The other letter 'S's on that page are similar - very little top half, and the bottom half forming a closed loop. So I would go for Newark N J U S A.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by SarahND » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:40 pm

Nice one, Lesley! =D>

In 1906 there is a passenger record for Thomas "Greenless" who says his last permanent residence was Newark, with Paisley written underneath. He says he is going to his Father in law Mr. Cummings at 21 Mount Prospect av, Newark.

So that is why they married there (assuming that was the marriage location that was meant?)

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by AndrewP » Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:25 pm

Hi Frances,

On the birth certificate, the place of birth is given as Newark, Castlehead, Paisley. Presumably they named their house after the place they were married (in NJ, USA) a year earlier.

All the best,

Andrew

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by frances » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:36 am

Thanks you Andrew & Lesley,

TS "family" comes up trumps again.

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Re: N.J.U.O.A.

Post by nelmit » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:30 am

And sure enough that's where they married although the record shows 1893-

Groom's Name Thomas Greenlees
Groom's Birth Date 1866
Groom's Birthplace Sct.
Groom's Age 27
Bride's Name Elizabeth C. M. Cummings
Bride's Birth Date 1872
Bride's Birthplace Sct.
Bride's Age 21
Marriage Date 18 Apr 1893
Marriage Place Newark, Essex, New Jersey

Regards,
Annette