My great grandfather John Brown, was born to Duncan Brown (1840-1897) and Jane Douglas (1842-1879). He married Mary Hawthorn Murray in 1910 and moved to Rhode Island in the USA in 1913.
I have his life quite well documented until 1921, when his wife died in Pawtucket Rhode Island. My grandmother told me that he just left and was never heard from again.
I think that he may have returned to Scotland and I've searched and spent a huge amount of money searching Scotlandspeople.gov.uk, but I cannot find anything. He was in the military and fought in the Boer War. I've found some of his military records. I've been on a quest to find out what happened to him and where he died for a couple years and have found absolutely nothing. I've traced his siblings as best I can to try to see if there might be a clue, but nothing.
Any help would be much appreciated. I've exhausted all the sources I've been able to find in the USA for a trace of him, so I feel pretty sure that he must have left the country.
Thanks in advance,
Greg
My Great Grandfather- John Brown born 9 Feb 1875
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HI Greg and welcome to Talking Scot.
Have you checked out this marriage indexed at Family Search? I know his age is a bit out but it's the parents names that stand out and his birthday is the 9th February. He was a welder born Scotland.
Name: John Brown
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Aug 1925
Event Place: Lucas, Ohio, United States
Age: 57
Birth Year (Estimated): 1868
Father's Name: Duncan Brown
Mother's Name: Jane Douglas
Spouse's Name: Wilhelmine Andres
Spouse's Age: 61
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1864
Spouse's Father's Name: Geo Balmbach
Spouse's Mother's Name: Catherine Kimmel
You can view the original image here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1614804
Regards,
Annette
Have you checked out this marriage indexed at Family Search? I know his age is a bit out but it's the parents names that stand out and his birthday is the 9th February. He was a welder born Scotland.
Name: John Brown
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Aug 1925
Event Place: Lucas, Ohio, United States
Age: 57
Birth Year (Estimated): 1868
Father's Name: Duncan Brown
Mother's Name: Jane Douglas
Spouse's Name: Wilhelmine Andres
Spouse's Age: 61
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1864
Spouse's Father's Name: Geo Balmbach
Spouse's Mother's Name: Catherine Kimmel
You can view the original image here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1614804
Regards,
Annette
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Re: My Great Grandfather- John Brown born 9 Feb 1875
Here he is in 1930 -
Name: John Brown
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Toledo, Lucas, Ohio, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 58
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1872
Birthplace: Scotland
Immigration Year: 1913
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
It looks as though Wilhelmina died in 1936 and was buried under her previous married name Andres...I don't know what to make of that. There are a number of John Browns buried at Lucas, Ohio but whether any one of them is your ancestor............
Regards,
Annette
Name: John Brown
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Toledo, Lucas, Ohio, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 58
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1872
Birthplace: Scotland
Immigration Year: 1913
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
It looks as though Wilhelmina died in 1936 and was buried under her previous married name Andres...I don't know what to make of that. There are a number of John Browns buried at Lucas, Ohio but whether any one of them is your ancestor............
Regards,
Annette
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Re: My Great Grandfather- John Brown born 9 Feb 1875
Annette,
THANK YOU!!! I've spent hours and hours hunting through records and you've now found John Brown for me. I'm 100% sure that what you found is correct. The lesson for me is that even if you are certain of a birth date, it certainly helps to widen the search. I have locked my searches to the year 1875 as I knew that's when he was born. The marriage record shows an earlier birth date, but I know the record is correct for his marriage. Occupation, parents, immigration all match as does his signature.
Please send me a private message. (I think you can do that here)
Annette really made my day!
Greg
THANK YOU!!! I've spent hours and hours hunting through records and you've now found John Brown for me. I'm 100% sure that what you found is correct. The lesson for me is that even if you are certain of a birth date, it certainly helps to widen the search. I have locked my searches to the year 1875 as I knew that's when he was born. The marriage record shows an earlier birth date, but I know the record is correct for his marriage. Occupation, parents, immigration all match as does his signature.
Please send me a private message. (I think you can do that here)
Annette really made my day!
Greg
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Re: My Great Grandfather- John Brown born 9 Feb 1875
=D> Annette's a star
I think the birth day and month are a giveaway here-- it would not be the first time that a spouse had moved their age to be more in keeping with the age of their spouse on the marriage record.
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Re: My Great Grandfather- John Brown born 9 Feb 1875
Hi Greg Aren't you glad you asked for a fresh pair of eyes to look at your search
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Glad I was able to help Greg and your thanks is my reward.gloftness wrote:She's more than a star to me and deserves a bit of a reward from me for her skill and willingness to help.
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