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Re: Help please

Post by crayspond » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:29 pm

Hi All,

Thanks for the help - I'm now quite pleased to have the death certs of Alex and Agnes Wright. Today I've been looking for deaths for their son James Wright married to Mary Sheridan and a marriage or death for James and Mary's only son also James.
Carol kindly found them on the 1911 census at 130 Gilmour St Gorbals - James snr iron moulder 47 Mary 39 and James Jnr 18.
As there are so many James Wrights i looked for Mary and found her death in 1939 address 10 Gilmour St Gorbals. She was a widow and the witness was her brother in law James Currie. I traced the valuation rolls and she is on the 1925 and 1935 rolls but James is on the 1915 and 1920 all at 10 Gilmour St. Not sure which James it is though. If it's James senior it narrows his death between 1920 and 1925. The son is not a witness on her death cert so he may also have died. I'm hoping not in WW1 like his 3 cousins.
Again any ideas appreciated!

Ailsa

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Re: Help please

Post by AndrewP » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:37 pm

Hi Ailsa,

Once more, playing a game of probability with the ScotlandsPeople index, I searched for the death of a James Wright between 1911 and 1939, with a birth year of 1864 ± 2 years in a registration district within the City of Glasgow gives the following 9 results.


JAMES WRIGHT, 49
1912, 654/ 35, Rutherglen

JAMES WRIGHT, 59
1921, 644/21 582, Govan

JAMES WRIGHT, 59
1923, 644/16 95, Govanhill

JAMES WRIGHT, 59
1924, 644/4 1197, Dennistoun

JAMES WRIGHT, 61
1925, 644/15 113, Hutchesontown

ROBERT JAMES WRIGHT, 64
1926, 644/21 644, Govan

JAMES WRIGHT, 61
1926, 644/13 239, Kelvin

JAMES WRIGHT, 64
1927, 644/6 946, Springburn

JAMES WRIGHT, 70
1933, 644/23 555, Scotstoun and Yoker

If I was picking on a first one to consider, it would be the 1921 death in Govan, aged 59 years.

From the posts on this thread, you have learned that there is a major hospital in Kelvin RD. As I recall, another of the major hospitals (Stobhill) is in Springburn district. You may wish to consider that if the 1921 death in Govan is not him.

That all assumes he died in Glasgow...

All the best,

AndrewP

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Re: Help please

Post by crayspond » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:09 pm

Hi Andrew,
Yes that is a possibility - he was born 26/4/1863 I did see this one

WRIGHT
JAMES
61
1925
644/15 113
Hutchesontown

You are right about the hospital in Springburn though. I'll have a think.
Thanks!

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Re: Help please

Post by speleobat2 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:09 pm

Hi again,

James Wright married to Mary Sheridan died March 28, 1925 in Hutchesontown. Mary Wright (Sheridan) was the witness. He was 61 and lived at 10 Gilmour St.

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Re: Help please

Post by crayspond » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:29 pm

Hi,

I have just logged in to SP about to decide which James Wright to download - then thought i better check back on TS - glad i did! I would have probably downloaded them both anyway but Carol saved me 6 credits - thanks. He died of Nephritis and vascular disease of the heart. It shows how important the valuation rolls can be. James was there in 1920 but Mary was the head in 1925 - as long as they stay at the same address it can be useful and only 2 credits!
Now to look for the son James - i was hoping he would be the witness for one of them.His last sighting is on the 1911 census age 18.
After that the only 2 left are Mary and Elizabeth daughters of Alexander and Agnes and i think that may be difficult.

Regards
Ailsa

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Re: Help please

Post by speleobat2 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:23 pm

Hi Ailsa,

I've been looking around for Mary and Elizabeth too with no luck. Of course, if they married, they are probably hiding in plain sight! I did find one Elizabeth whose mother's maiden name was McCallum, but she was up in Lockgilphead and from the looks of the records on Ancestry she isn't yours. James the son is going to be harder to find. His name is just too common.

Good luck with your search.

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Re: Help please

Post by crayspond » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:59 pm

Thanks Carol,
I think you are right about the girls - unless I'm very lucky and i come across something in my records.
You and the other people on SP have been a great help. Thank you once again,

Ailsa

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Re: Help please

Post by crayspond » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:19 pm

Hi,
Back again - I am looking at the only male left in the Wright line - son James. I know there are hundreds but i have narrowed it down to a guess that he may have married between 1911 and 1925 (his father died in 1925 i would have thought the son would have been the witness. In this case it's his wife Mary. As they don't seem to move around much i have only selected Govan or Gorbals. His mother is Mary Wright m.s Sheridan and father James Wright.
If anyone is looking for something to do and has access to ancestry etc could they look at the following marriages please?

WRIGHT JAMES MANN VIOLET 1921 644/17 348 Gorbals
WRIGHT JAMES WELCH ELIZABETH 1919 644/17 268 Gorbals
WRIGHT JAMES HALEN AGNES 1917 644/21 27 Govan
WRIGHT JAMES LAWSON AGNES 1917 644/21 27 Govan
WRIGHT JAMES MARSHALL ANNIE 1913 644/17 190 Gorbals
WRIGHT JAMES TURNER CATHERINE 1917 644/17 341 Gorbals
WRIGHT JAMES BROWN CATHERINE KILGO 1922 644/17 300 Gorbals

Thanks,

Ailsa

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Re: Help please

Post by speleobat2 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:36 am

James Wright married Annie Marshall April 25, 1913 in Gorbals. Both of his parents were alive. His address was 10 Gilmour St.

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Re: Help please

Post by crayspond » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:29 pm

Carol - You absolute star =D> thank you very much. I've had a trawl through the Commonwealth Graves (as it is coming up to WW1 and he fits the age perfectly :( ) I can't find anyone that fits him yet so maybe he either came back or died before it started. Now i have a new lead thanks to you.

Ailsa

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