William Innes death - help with reading.....

Lahb · Post by **Lahb** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:50 am

Today I received a lovely photo copy from the GRO for the death of William Innes but I am still having trouble with reading a few areas. I've uploaded the image to the gallery. Can anyone make out what his mother Agnes' maiden name is? Coburn? I am also wondering about the street they have him listed as living at in Glasgow - Gillonths?? Any thoughts on this one are appreciated

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-324

Happy holidays to all, Lisa

URL added - AndrewP

Post by **Tracey** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:49 am

Hello Lisa

Baring in mind its way past my bed time but just checking in as you do ! i looked for your uploaded D/C but couldnt see it

URL added well after bedtime - see message above - AndrewP

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:10 am

Hi Lisa,

I agree the maiden surname looks like Coburn. The address, I think starts with "9" rather than "G" - 9 Mendron St. (only a reasonable guess, it's a difficult one).

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

Lahb · Post by **Lahb** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:20 am

Hi Andrew and Tracy! Thanks for looking and thank you Andrew for adding the URL. Now that you've said "9" I can see it saying "9 months in Glasgow" - don't know why I was sure it was a "g" since it was slightly different from the other "g's" written. Thank goodness the GRO sent me a copy as trying to see it online was making my eyes go - the scan is so faint.

Thanks again, Lisa

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:00 am

Lahb wrote:"9 months in Glasgow"

I see "9 months in Glasgow" now. feel daft having tried to make a street name out of that.

Al the best,

Andrew Paterson

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:00 am

Hi Lisa
I woudn't discout "Golan" as that middle name, though I can see it as Coburn too!

Best wishes
Lesley

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:00 am

Compare the capital "G" in Glasgow with capital at the start of the maiden name of the mother. Although there's a small tail coming down beneath the line, I see that as the final wee flourish when the registrar finishes off his capital "C", so my vote goes for a surname starting "Cob..." and the only one that I can think of that matches is "Coburn". The reason for some remaining doubt in my mind is that the registrar has slurred the "rn" a bit ....

Look also at the wife's name, and that of the 3rd child, - Cordellia for other examples of the "C" ........and to really confuse matters look at the "C" in Catherine, - the informant

The 5 children shown match +/- 1 year the extracted records for the parents on IGI, except that 1 Janet may be "missing", and what happened to Malcolm and Catherine ??, - surely his sister knew about the most recent family members, and I'll take some convincing that there were two INNES families in the same area at the same time where the wife was Cordel[l]ia McLean

(Parents married Barony 08Dec1833.)

JANET INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 10 OCT 1834 Greenock Par, , Renfrew, Scotland

JANET INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 NOV 1836 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

AGNES INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 APR 1836 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

[something not quite right here with the second Janet and Agnes dates, but note that these are christenings, not births.]

CORDELIA INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 AUG 1838 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

WILLIAM INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 AUG 1840 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

NEIL INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1842 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

MALCOLM BUCHANAN INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 DEC 1844 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

CATHERINE INNES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 JAN 1846 West Or Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

David

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:03 am

AndrewP wrote:
Lahb wrote:"9 months in Glasgow"
I see "9 months in Glasgow" now. feel daft having tried to make a street name out of that.

Al the best,

Andrew Paterson

As is so often the case, it greatly helps to know the information that should be there

And to read the column heading "Where born and how long in this district" $\:D/$

David

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:18 am

Ok
I'm just so use to seeing "Goalen" turning up as anything but Goalen that I tend to see a Goalen variation instinctively.... even when its not there!!

Best wishes
Lesley
...dealing on a daily basis with Goalen, Gullen, Gulen, Gollan, Golan, Guillan, Guilan, Goolen, Goalin, Goalan... ad infinitum. And they tell me if you have an unusual name to research it makes things easier?????

Lahb · Post by **Lahb** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:38 am

Thanks all for your comments -- Here is another consideration to throw into the pot (I've been staring at this all day!) "Colvin"?

DavidWW - yes that is part of the family and yep, the records for Janet (and Agnes too) are all messed up. There was a thread on this a bit back and I believe it was Andy who kindly took a look at the records for Janet and said the whole registry page was all over the place in terms of dates. Same went for Agnes' entry page.

I wasn't aware of Catherine Innes (the sisters) existance until this death registry so I don't know if there is a large age gap between her and William or not. The family may not have been close (despite one of their children sharing her name!) so perhaps she wasn't too "on the ball" about the kids ages as they are certainly off in terms of the birth dates I have for most of them. Not to mention a few are missing

Best, Lisa