Pople Death.....

[trish1]

I have the image for a William Pople who died in Perth in 1855 (Dec 24). It tells me that he was buried at Wellshill Cemetery.

After advice from a friend, I contacted the AK Bell library for any details of the burial and this was the response

Unfortunately, William Pople is not listed at this date, nor between 1849-1863. However, there is a John Popel, buried in Wellshill cemetery 26 December 1855 at 1’o’clock. Because statutory registration of deaths had just started in 1855, these registers, unlike previous ones, don’t give information such as date of death, next of kin or address at death which were all meant to be recorded on the death certificate.

There is no sign of a John Popel or Pople in the death index that I can find. There is a John Pople baptised in the same parish as my William (Mappowder Dorset) but it seems he died before 1837(in England). William has a daughter Mary listed on the death certificate, but the only Mary I can find of the correct age is the daughter of this John.

Do I assume the John Popel in the Cemetery index is my William or is there anything else I can check?

thanks

Trish

PS I've just realised that the informant on the death certificate is son John - this may be why John is mentioned on the burial record?

[DavidWW]

I have the image for a William Pople who died in Perth in 1855 (Dec 24). It tells me that he was buried at Wellshill Cemetery.

After advice from a friend, I contacted the AK Bell library for any details of the burial and this was the response

Unfortunately, William Pople is not listed at this date, nor between 1849-1863. However, there is a John Popel, buried in Wellshill cemetery 26 December 1855 at 1’o’clock. Because statutory registration of deaths had just started in 1855, these registers, unlike previous ones, don’t give information such as date of death, next of kin or address at death which were all meant to be recorded on the death certificate.

There is no sign of a John Popel or Pople in the death index that I can find. There is a John Pople baptised in the same parish as my William (Mappowder Dorset) but it seems he died before 1837(in England). William has a daughter Mary listed on the death certificate, but the only Mary I can find of the correct age is the daughter of this John.

Do I assume the John Popel in the Cemetery index is my William or is there anything else I can check?

thanks

Trish

PS I've just realised that the informant on the death certificate is son John - this may be why John is mentioned on the burial record?

Trish

You'd need to see the original record in order to work out if it really referred to William as the person interred, possibly confused with the purchaser of the lair John........

Given the surname and the conjunction of the dates, died 24th buried 26th, I don't think that there's too much doubt that the record refers to the burial of William, not John.

David

[trish1]

You'd need to see the original record in order to work out if it really referred to William as the person interred, possibly confused with the purchaser of the lair John........

Given the surname and the conjunction of the dates, died 24th buried 26th, I don't think that there's too much doubt that the record refers to the burial of William, not John.

David

Thanks David - How would I get to see the original record? - or much more likely convince someone else to look at it for me. Would my correspondant from the libary (Well I think she may work for someone else but she is physically at the library) have looked at the original or simply an index?

Trish

[DavidWW]

You'd need to see the original record in order to work out if it really referred to William as the person interred, possibly confused with the purchaser of the lair John........

Given the surname and the conjunction of the dates, died 24th buried 26th, I don't think that there's too much doubt that the record refers to the burial of William, not John.

David

Thanks David - How would I get to see the original record? - or much more likely convince someone else to look at it for me. Would my correspondant from the libary (Well I think she may work for someone else but she is physically at the library) have looked at the original or simply an index?

Trish

Hi Trish

I'd have hoped that, based on my previous post, your contact at the Bell Library might be prepared to send you a photocopy of the burial record !!

David

[trish1]

Hi David

I didn't get a copy but I did get the full details, plus notes from a "subsidiary" notebook and the "lair" number (yet another word to add to my Scottish collection - we call them grave numbers). The note included the son's address (where he was in 1861) so it seems to be the correct record, just the wrong name.

thanks

Trish