Other sources for death certificates?.....

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menelaus
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Other sources for death certificates?.....

Post by menelaus » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:17 pm

I've spent far too many credits trying to find three elusive death certificates. One of which then appeared as if by magic in my previous searches complete with the expected location and age at death after the re-indexing exerise done in January. I've now concluded that I will never find them on the SP site. Would a search at New Register House be worthwhile?

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:05 pm

Hi Menelaus
...and a warm welcome to Talking Scot! :D

Why don't you trying posting the details of the deaths you are having problems finding here? Sometimes two heads are better than one! :) :) and we like a wee challenge.
(and we might save you a trip!)

Best wishes
Lesley
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.

DavidWW
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Re: Other sources for death certificates?

Post by DavidWW » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:11 pm

menelaus wrote:I've spent far too many credits trying to find three elusive death certificates. One of which then appeared as if by magic in my previous searches complete with the expected location and age at death after the re-indexing exerise done in January. I've now concluded that I will never find them on the SP site. Would a search at New Register House be worthwhile?
Maybe aye, maybe no.......... :!: :wink:

It all depends on the names involved and the extent to which spelling variations come into question.

If spelling variations are not likely to be a problem, then an NRH visit can be very cost effective, as can the use of the services of a professional researcher.

But if spelling variations are likely to come into the situation then an NRH visit is not necessarily the way I'd advise, as the search system at NRH does not allow the use of wildcards.............

Without further information on the names involved in this case, along with the information obtained to date, it's not a straightforward question to answer !!

And that's without addressing the aspect that the absence of a Scottish record could simply be due to the event not having taken place in Scotland (consular and other similar records excepted!) .........

David

menelaus
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OK here goes...

Post by menelaus » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:52 pm

Thanks for welcome.

My first target is the death certificate of Elizabeth Anderson, maiden surname Scott. Last seen on the 1861 census, aged 67, at Fetterangus, Old Deer, Banff/Aberdeen. She was living with her husband, William Anderson Neither can be found on the 1871 census. It was William's death certificate which "appeared" in January. He died at Fetterangus in 1865.

The other is George Thom McDonald Anderson, born 29th August 1869 and died sometime between 1900 and 1924. Married to Alexanderina Copland who died in 1907. Should be in Aberdeen but I've downloaded all images throughout Scotland for George Anderson with a birth year range of 2 years, including one in the minor records.

DavidWW
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Re: OK here goes...

Post by DavidWW » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:01 am

menelaus wrote:Thanks for welcome.

My first target is the death certificate of Elizabeth Anderson, maiden surname Scott. Last seen on the 1861 census, aged 67, at Fetterangus, Old Deer, Banff/Aberdeen. She was living with her husband, William Anderson Neither can be found on the 1871 census. It was William's death certificate which "appeared" in January. He died at Fetterangus in 1865.

The other is George Thom McDonald Anderson, born 29th August 1869 and died sometime between 1900 and 1924. Married to Alexanderina Copland who died in 1907. Should be in Aberdeen but I've downloaded all images throughout Scotland for George Anderson with a birth year range of 2 years, including one in the minor records.
Hi menelaus

For a surname such as ANDERSON, or SCOTT for that matter, I'd recommend going the NRH visit route as the next stage.

In either case were there children living elsewhere, to whose location the widow/widower may have moved ?

David

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Post by LesleyB » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:08 am

Hi Menelaus
It was William's death certificate which "appeared" in January. He died at Fetterangus in 1865
Does it state that William was "widower of" Elizabeth or "husband of " Elizabeth in 1865?- this might give you some more clues as to when Elizabeth died.

I'm sure you will have checked these?
1864 ANDERSON ELIZABETH
(mother's name)DUNN
(other surname) SCOTT
F aged 63 ST NICHOLAS ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN

1880 ANDERSON ELIZABETH
(mother's name)MOIR
(other surname) SCOTT
F 81 CRUDEN /ABERDEEN

The other is George Thom McDonald Anderson, born 29th August 1869 and died sometime between 1900 and 1924.Married to Alexanderina Copland who died in 1907.
Same with this one - is Alexanderina "widow of" or "wife of" in 1907? Again, it might help you narrow the window down a bit.

Best wishes
Lesley

menelaus
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Yes, tried both of those

Post by menelaus » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:13 am

Hi Lesley,

I have indeed tried both of the deaths you mention. On WIlliam's death certifcate is "Married to Elizabeth Scott".

I quoted Alexanderina's death incorrectly, it should have been 1943!

Edinburgh, here I come...

JimM
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Re: Yes, tried both of those

Post by JimM » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:18 am

menelaus wrote:Edinburgh, here I come...
Hi Menelaus
You can also use Park Circus in Glasgow if that is any closer to you.
Good luck with your search

Jim
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McIntyre, Menzies, Cowley, Pearson, Copland, McCammond, Forbes, Edgar etc. in Scotland
Skinner in Northumberland

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Post by Cathy » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:21 am

Hi Menelaus,
welcome to TS.
Maybe you could try expanding on the +2 years.
I've had some "way out" ages.
Cathy

ian beaton jack
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Re: Other sources for death certificates?

Post by ian beaton jack » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:07 pm

menelaus wrote:I've spent far too many credits trying to find three elusive death certificates. One of which then appeared as if by magic in my previous searches complete with the expected location and age at death after the re-indexing exerise done in January. I've now concluded that I will never find them on the SP site. Would a search at New Register House be worthwhile?
i am having the same problems, i am trying to find my g.g.fathers death notice between 1851 census report and 1855. he shows as robert wilson aged 35,in the 1851, at knockbain,ross & cromarty. a mason,then nothing, i can trace his widow catherine and family all the way after that.
does anyone know if there are any records held anywhere of that period.
ian jack