Another hard to read certificate.....

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:34 pm

Hi all,

I have uploaded a certificate in the gallery for the marriage of Rachel McCraken and Joseph Hackney. I am finding most of it quite difficult to read and would appreciate some help!

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-507

Nina

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:50 pm

Hi Nina,

Here is my interpretation of the marriage certificate.

1879, on the twenty fifth day of July at No.11 Greenside Row, Edinburgh
After publication according to the forms of the Established Church in Scotland

signed Joseph Hackney, Sergeant Royal Artillery, bachelor, 27
Leith ___ (Fort?), Leith

signed Rachael McCracken, Dressmaker, Spinster, 18
No.11 Greenside Row, Edinburgh

Seth Hackney, _____ (Best Boy?)
Mary Hackney, MS. Shaw

John McCracken, Upholster
Mary McCracken, MS. McEwan

signed David _____, Curate in charge of St Pauls Church(?), Edinburgh
signed Frank D Blogg witness
signed Lizzie McCrachen witness

1879 July 20th at Edinburgh
Alex _____, Registrar

All the best,

AndrewP

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:19 pm

Hi Nina and Andrew

I agree.....

And it looks like we won't find out what a Best Boy is unless you venture south of the border....

Dwelling: 11 Greenside Row
Census Place: Edinburgh Greenside, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0223995 GRO Ref Volume 685-2 EnumDist 4 Page 4
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Mary MC CRACKEN W 60 F Ireland
Rel: Head
Occ: Dairy Keeper
Sarah I. MC CRACKEN U 18 F Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Daur
James CALDWELL 13 M Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Grandson
Occ: Scholar
Joseph HACKNEY M 30 M England
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Soldier
Rachel HACKNEY M 20 F Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Visitor
Charles H. O. HACKNEY 9 m M Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Visitor

Best wishes
Jean

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:16 pm

Hi Nina

I wondered if his address was Leith Toll south. If you look at the flourish where he has writen 'Twenty' it looks the same. Leith was in two clear parts North & South

The ninister was David Smart
Surname appears to have been spelt McCraken. The rest I agree with
AndrewP

Russell

jillwelsh · Post by **jillwelsh** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:05 pm

Could it be Episcopal rather than Established; and Asphalter rather than Upholster?
Jill

Post by **AndrewP** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:29 pm

Hi Nina,

Here is my revised interpretation of the marriage certificate after reading Russell's and Jill's replies above.

1879, on the twenty fifth day of July at No.11 Greenside Row, Edinburgh
After publication according to the forms of the Episcopal Church in Scotland

signed Joseph Hackney, Sergeant Royal Artillery, bachelor, 27
Leith ___ (Fort? or Toll?), Leith

signed Rachael McCraken, Dressmaker, Spinster, 18
No.11 Greenside Row, Edinburgh

Seth Hackney, _____ (Best Boy?)
Mary Hackney, MS. Shaw

John McCraken, Asphalter
Mary McCraken, MS. McEwan

signed David Smart, Curate in charge of St Pauls Church(?), Edinburgh
signed Frank D Blogg witness
signed Lizzie McCraken witness

1879 July 20th at Edinburgh
Alex _____, Registrar

Curate makes more sense in connection with the Episcopal Church rather than the Church of Scotland.

All the best,

AndrewP

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:54 pm

Defintutely

Episcopal Church in Scotland.

Asphalter.

Probably "Fort".

Probably St. Pauls E. C.

.....and how about "Post Boy" ??............ (such a person didn't have to be a "boy")

David

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:15 pm

I thought his occupation might be Rat Boy.

The only Seth Hackney I can see on the 1881 census is a Drayman.

Annette M

rdem · Post by **rdem** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:17 pm

Could it be Leith Port?
Also, I'm not sure Best boy is applicable, since it refers to a senior assistant of an electrician, the timing is a little premature for that trade as well as the maturity of Seth.
I was wondering if it is Boot Boy. Having said that I have a trouble with the letter before boy, in that it doesn't look like any other letter "t" in the document which all have a forward stroke after the letter.

Also for Seth Hackney, there is only one in all of Britain mentioned in the 1881 so I am supposing this the correct one.

Seth HACKNEY M 54 M Holbeach, Lincoln, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Drayman
Mary HACKNEY M 53 F Well, Lincoln, England
Rel: Wife
Henery HACKNEY U 23 M Alford, Lincoln, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Hotel Servant
Anthony HACKNEY U 17 M Alford, Lincoln, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Butcher
Charles HACKNEY U 15 M Alford, Lincoln, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Cabinet Makers Apprentice
Mary A. HACKNEY 13 F Alford, Lincoln, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Fred HACKNEY 11 M Alford, Lincoln, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Walter HACKNEY 7 M Alford, Lincoln, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:32 pm

What better place for an artilleryman?

Leith
Leith (68), chief seaport in E. of Scotland, on the Forth, contiguous to Edinburgh and the port of it; is an old, unattractive, but busy town. The harbour comprises five docks. The imports are corn, flour, wines, sugar, and fruit; the exports, coal, iron, paraffin, and whisky. There are shipbuilding and engineering works, breweries, distilleries, and other industries. Leith Fort, between the town and Newhaven, is the head-quarters of the artillery for Scotland.

Definition taken from The Nuttall Encyclopædia, edited by the Reverend James Wood (1907)

David