Death in Cupar.....

horses_4_me_4eva · Post by **horses_4_me_4eva** » Wed May 10, 2006 6:47 am

Hi i am new at this and i am looking for information on the following

Deaths

Margaret Erskine nee Barclay death 1858 Cupar aged 53

Married a Peter Erskine in 1838?

Any help and direction would be great as it is hard to do this.

Sam

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed May 10, 2006 7:22 am

Hi Sam
And welcome to Talking Scot

Margaret Erskine nee Barclay death 1858 Cupar aged 53

You can find the death on the Scotlands People site:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
It is a pay per view site, and you will be able to see the original death entry there which should give you Margaret's age at death, her place of death, the cause of death and her parents' names. She is not hard to find because for women you can search by both surnames - there is only one, died Cupar, Fife, 1858 as you mentioned.

Best wishes
Lesley

momat · Post by **momat** » Wed May 10, 2006 8:22 am

Hi Sam,

Go to the SOURCES at top of page and click on the IGI site.
There is an entry for them there, also do a parent check and it will bring up their Children.

Cheers,

horses_4_me_4eva · Post by **horses_4_me_4eva** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:57 pm

I already have the children to the marriage and down the line i am just trying to go back further.

I got the marriage on the IGI. Pity it is before 1855.

trying to find parents......oh what fun this is.......

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Wed May 10, 2006 2:05 pm

Hi Sam

Yup you're right too bad the marriage was before 1855...but that doesn't matter as long as they died after 1855 and there was a reliable informant for the DC. In your case when you purchase the DC of Margaret you will learn her parents names and also whether her husband Peter was still living. If he was then you know you have a good chance of tracking him forward through census records etc to his own death and quite likely the naming of his parents.

Best wishes
Jean

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:18 pm

Margaret's death register entry does indeed show the names of her parents.

Peter's death register entry doesn't, as well as being an extremely difficult entry to find, but there's another way that leads to the names of his parents ..........

David

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Wed May 10, 2006 4:36 pm

DavidWW wrote:Margaret's death register entry does indeed show the names of her parents.

Peter's death register entry doesn't, as well as being an extremely difficult entry to find, but there's another way that leads to the names of his parents ..........

David

Indeedy there is

What better source than Peter himself

Best wishes
Jean

horses_4_me_4eva · Post by **horses_4_me_4eva** » Wed May 10, 2006 10:57 pm

JustJean wrote:
DavidWW wrote:Margaret's death register entry does indeed show the names of her parents.

Peter's death register entry doesn't, as well as being an extremely difficult entry to find, but there's another way that leads to the names of his parents ..........

David
Indeedy there is What better source than Peter himself

Best wishes
Jean

What is the other way to find his parents. I will try and get Margarets death certificate when i get some money to put on my card.

How do you locate people before 1855 and know parents. especially if they married before 1855. What happens if they die before 1855 then i suppose your stuffed. this is where i am coming lost with the change over period.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:13 pm

Hi

How do you locate people before 1855 and know parents. especially if they married before 1855. What happens if they die before 1855 then i suppose your stuffed. this is where i am coming lost with the change over period.

It certainly becomes more difficult. If they died after 1855 then you are in with a good chance of their parents being on the death entry. If they died before 1855 then sometimes a bit more digging about is required e.g. they may have had brothers or sisters who survived until after 1855 and then their deaths will give you the parents' names you need. Even if they died before 1855 they may have left a will... and there is always the 1851 and the 1841 census to take you a little way further back too - if you can find the person you are looking for living with their parents.

Best wishes
Lesley

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:52 am

horses_4_me_4eva wrote:
JustJean wrote:
DavidWW wrote:Margaret's death register entry does indeed show the names of her parents.

Peter's death register entry doesn't, as well as being an extremely difficult entry to find, but there's another way that leads to the names of his parents ..........

David
Indeedy there is What better source than Peter himself

Best wishes
Jean
What is the other way to find his parents. I will try and get Margarets death certificate when i get some money to put on my card.

How do you locate people before 1855 and know parents. especially if they married before 1855. What happens if they die before 1855 then i suppose your stuffed. this is where i am coming lost with the change over period.

Peter's second marriage, following the death of his first wife ..............

David