??? John Feeney's death cert.....

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:42 am

Hi all:

Im really having trouble with this cert for several reasons, one the copy is not wonderful, I cannot read what I think shouold be John Feeney's D/C, It looks like it may not really be his name,

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-622

Please help if you can. Karen

The search on SP reveals 1944, GROS inf0 654/00 0026 he was 81, died in Rutherglen.

image url added by JustJean

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:04 am

Hi Karen

It sure looks like his name was John HUTCHINSON formerly ALLEN.

Father named Hugh ALLEN mother named Jane FEENEY afterwards married to Samuel HUTCHINSON.

Best wishes
Jean

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:20 am

I agree with Jean, Hutchison formerly Allen father Hugh Allen Captain Merchant Navy (deceased) mother Jane Feeney

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:45 am

They have him indexed as John Feeney, I was so sure I had my man, I wrote to SP, we'll see what they say.

Thanks for dechiphering it for me!!
Karen

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:48 pm

Greetings All:

Wanted to share with you the response from SP on the above.

"Thank you for your e-mail. I have taken a look at the entry mentioned in your message and can confirm that it is technically correct. To explain, all individuals are indexed under any name they may have been known as at any point in their life. For example, if a child was born what was then termed 'illegitimate', he/she would be indexed under both the mother's maiden name and the father's name (if known). If the mother then married another man the child would additionally be indexed under the stepfather's name, as well as that of any further stepfathers should the mother marry more than once.

In the same way all females are indexed under both their maiden and married name at death (if applicable). This is because a woman never actually loses her maiden name even when taking her husband's name at marriage, which she is not obliged to do: she is technically the same person she was at birth.
As you noted in your e-mail, the individual has a surname of Hutchison, and also Allen after his father, but it appears that his mother's maiden name was Feeney, and that John was born out of wedlock. This is why he would be additionally indexed under his mother's maiden name, as well as that of his stepfather (Hutchison) and father (Allen), and subsequently why this individual was returned in your search."

After reading this, Ive come to discover that I have SO much more to learn about genealogy, and research. Ive made a pact with myself to actually READ, the help screens!!!!

Ta..
Karen
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Post by **paddyscar** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:17 am

I don't think I'm alone in this, but I always try to decipher the documents posted before moving on to all the responses.

I can practice and see if what I come up with, fits with the interpretation of other members. It also helps to think the puzzles through to a likely conclusion.

So, thanks for posting the reply from SP, which always lets me know if I was on the right track or not.

Frances