Skirvings of Haddingtonshire.....

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:19 pm

I have a death rec of a Matthew Skirving who died in 1878. I cannot make out the maiden name of his mother ( will try to upload it shortly ). As of yet I have found no marriage record for Matthew to a Marion Thompson, but they did have a few children in Dumbarton c1855-1867. SP's 1871 census shows the ages for Matthew & Marion at 42 & 37 respectively; I have not been able to locate birth records for either Matthew or Marion. Perhaps an 1851 census could provide me with some data regarding any siblings of Matthew and also if his parents were still around.

Thank you.

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nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:32 pm

Dennis wrote:I have a death rec of a Matthew Skirving who died in 1878. I cannot make out the maiden name of his mother ( will try to upload it shortly ). As of yet I have found no marriage record for Matthew to a Marion Thompson, but they did have a few children in Dumbarton c1855-1867. SP's 1871 census shows the ages for Matthew & Marion at 42 & 37 respectively; I have not been able to locate birth records for either Matthew or Marion. Perhaps an 1851 census could provide me with some data regarding any siblings of Matthew and also if his parents were still around.

Thank you.

I think I am going to enjoy this site.

Hello and welcome Dennis,

According to the IGI Matthew SKIRVING married Marion THOMPSON in Manchester on 11th July 1854. If you look at the daughter Marion SKIRVING's (born in March 1855) birth entry this should tell you where her parents were born.

I'm sure you will enjoy this site, lots of friendly and helpful people.

Regards,
Annette

mesklin · Post by **mesklin** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:50 pm

Dennis

File uploaded. I am confident you will indeed, enjoy this site.

Mesklin

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:55 pm

I make out Matthew Skirving's mother's details as Agnes SKIRVING, ms. GOODALL (deceased).

Address of your uploaded certificate:
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-111

No sign of this couple's marriage or child/ren on the online IGI.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:02 pm

Thank you Annette, Mesklin & Andrew. Looking at the birth rec on Scotlandspeople for Marion Skirving from 1855 I see that Matthew was born in Whittingham Haddington & was 25 at the time. The marriage in 1854 in Manchester kinda throws me; was it a popular place for Scots to go on their honeymoon then? Andrew I really appreciate the deciphering of the Goodall name:)

Many thanks to all of you,

dennis

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:19 pm

Given the Whittinghame nugget of information, the IGI shows a little more.

MARGARET SKIRVEN - christened 15 Jan 1826 Whittinghame
parents: James Skirven and Agnes Goodall

HELEN SKIRVING - christened 06 May 1832 Whittinghame
parents: James Skirving and Agnes Goodale

As with a fair number of parishes, the online IGI shows only the female births/christenings in Whittinghame. There's a good chance that the full IGI will show some male births/christenings to this couple.

Their marriage is shown as James Skirven and Agnes Goodall on 11 Dec 1824 in Whittinghame parish.

Looks like James Skirven/Skirving's grandson did not remember his grandfather's first name correctly when registering Matthew's death, and listed him as William.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:22 pm

Dennis wrote:Thank you Annette, Mesklin & Andrew. Looking at the birth rec on Scotlandspeople for Marion Skirving from 1855 I see that Matthew was born in Whittingham Haddington & was 25 at the time. The marriage in 1854 in Manchester kinda throws me; was it a popular place for Scots to go on their honeymoon then? Andrew I really appreciate the deciphering of the Goodall name:)

Many thanks to all of you,

dennis

The fact that the marriage took place in Manchester doesn't necessarily mean that Matthew was living down there. All that can be deduced from the fact that the marriage took place there is that it was Marion's home, - he might have met her when she was up in Scotland.

David

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:00 am

Thank you David. Are you saying that Matthew's mom, Agnes, is probably from Manchester?

I am also following this Skirving line to see if Adam Skirving of the Jacobite era is someone I can add to my tree.

Thank you:)

dennis

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:09 am

Hello Dennis,
Thanks to the transcribers of the 1841 census on the Freecen site -
doesn't tell you anything new but this could be your William in 1841.

Piece: SCT1841/724 Place: Whittinghame-East Lothian Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Whittinghame Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 5 Page: 8
Address: Cockielaw
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SKIRVEN Agnes F 40 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)
SKIRVEN William M 10 East Lothian

There is also an Agnes SKIRVING age 52 born in W. Indies on the 1851 census but the place is Garvald. http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Annette

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:42 am

Dennis wrote:Thank you David. Are you saying that Matthew's mom, Agnes, is probably from Manchester?

I am also following this Skirving line to see if Adam Skirving of the Jacobite era is someone I can add to my tree.

Thank you:)

dennis

Yes, but only probably !!

Davie

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