Deaths with Married name but no maiden name.....

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Deaths with Married name but no maiden name.....

Post by And It Makes Me Shine » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:12 pm

Any tips on how to check deaths with no surname. I have a first name and her married name but no maiden name but you cant leave the Surname blank. Any cheats I am missing?

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Re: Deaths with Married name but no maiden name

Post by DavidWW » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:16 pm

And It Makes Me Shine wrote:Any tips on how to check deaths with no surname. I have a first name and her married name but no maiden name but you cant leave the Surname blank. Any cheats I am missing?
Just search on the married surname as the death will be indexed under both .....

David

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Post by carmentea32 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:34 pm

sorry to jump in here, but in the case of a woman who has married twice, would she be indexed under all three surnames (maiden, 1st marriage, 2nd marriage)?

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Post by emanday » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:44 pm

You beat me to that question carmentea32.

One of mine was widowed, remarried and ended up dying in the poorhouse. Trying to find her 2nd marriage record is becoming a nightmare.
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Post by AndrewP » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:34 am

In theory, the deceased's name should be indexed under every name that they were known by at any time. But the limitation is that the death certificate will only give the information that was known to and given by the informant registering the death. If the informant was well informed and gave all the information, then the deceased should be there under maiden surname, first married surname, second married surname etc.

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Post by carmentea32 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:51 pm

thanks Andrew.

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Post by emanday » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:57 pm

Her DC had all that, but still can't find that second marriage.
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Post by DavidWW » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:32 pm

emanday wrote:Her DC had all that, but still can't find that second marriage.
Which raises the possibility that either the second marriage took place furth of Auld Scotia, or was "irregular" but never formalised in terms of an entry in the Register of Marriages via the Sheriff's Warrant or equivalent processes.

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Post by Tracey » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:48 pm

Her DC had all that, but still can't find that second marriage.
On my great grandmothers death certificate it said 1st (husband) .......2nd (husband) ................. She was never married to my gt grandfather the 1st "husband" but going by the death cert it looked like she was or had been. She was married to the 2nd though !
Her mother did the same, calling herself Mrs...........when she never was a Mrs ever :roll:
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Post by Russell » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:30 am

Hi Tracey

Her mother did the same, calling herself Mrs...........when she never was a Mrs ever

If it was in Scotland and they lived as man and wife and this was accepted then they were married.
There has been a lot recently in various threads about irregular marriages so it might be worth while using the 'search' to find some of he comments others have made. We are so used to current ways of looking at things that it takes a flexible mind to accept what the law permitted.

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