Isabella Torbet death certifcate.....

garibaldired · Post by **garibaldired** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:20 pm

I've uploaded to the gallery the death certificate of Isabella Torbet who died in Cockpen 8 October 1857.
First of all I can't decipher her cause of death and secondly I'm puzzled that she is described as " (married) " but no husband's name is given. Furthermore, the informant is he her son and what is his surname? Is it Souter?
An Isabella Dobie married a James Torbet in Cockpen in 1843 (from the IGI) so presumably this is her?
Is it unusual for place of burial to be given? This is the first one I've found (I think!).

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-696

Meg

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

Post by **AndrewP** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:39 pm

Hi Meg,

Death certificates of 1856 to 1860 (or 1861?) are of this style with the burial ground listed and the spouse not named.

As for the cause of death. I will need to have a longer look at that - a tricky one to decipher.

All the best,

AndrewP

Post by **Liz Turner** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:39 pm

Dear Meg

Am struggling to read this one! I think the son's name might be Arch Goudie (ie Archie/Archibald). Not sure why no husband given, but if she was married it might have been to a Mr Goudie ...

As for the place of burial, can say I've noticed it before, but it seems to be standard on the form. No doubt we will receive some advice from someone with more knowledge very soon

Sorry can't be of more help.

Liz

garibaldired · Post by **garibaldired** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:53 pm

Hi Andrew,

Death certificates of 1856 to 1860 (or 1861?) are of this style with the burial ground listed and the spouse not named

.

Oh and I thought it was something suspicious! A pity place of burial was discontinued. What a help that would have been!

Thanks,
Meg

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:10 pm

Is there a doctor in the house

Gradual ?????iation
the ???th of ??????? [external?]
effusion into the left
pleura
six months
As cert by Wm
Main MD who last
saw deceased 1st Oct 1857

Agreed re Arch. Goudie, but if he's a son, where does the surname come from ?

David

garibaldired · Post by **garibaldired** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:26 pm

Well done, David.
Just looked at FreeCen and......

Piece: SCT1841/676 Place: Cockpen-Midlothian Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Cockpen Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 3 Page: 1
Address: Byrnhead
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GAUDIE Marion F 45 Ag Lab Midlothian
DOBIE Isabella F 20 Paper Maker Midlothian
GAUDIE Archibald M 5 Midlothian
RUTHVEN Robert M 2 Midlothian

Now why didn't I look there first..........?!
Meg

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:54 pm

garibaldired wrote:Well done, David.
Just looked at FreeCen and......

Piece: SCT1841/676 Place: Cockpen-Midlothian Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Cockpen Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 3 Page: 1
Address: Byrnhead
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GAUDIE Marion F 45 Ag Lab Midlothian
DOBIE Isabella F 20 Paper Maker Midlothian
GAUDIE Archibald M 5 Midlothian
RUTHVEN Robert M 2 Midlothian

Now why didn't I look there first..........?!
Meg

Hi Meg

Nae weel done at a', but,

as Ah jist canny mak oot the rest of the writing, - it's quite a weird hand ................

David

Post by **AnneM** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:41 pm

Hi

I think the word after gradual might be ossification.

Anne

Post by **paddyscar** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:21 pm

Cause of Death

Gradual amaciation(?) the result of arterial(?) effusion into the left pleura. Six months.

Maybe Russell can clear up the medical terms?

Frances

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:35 pm

Could it be "emaciation" ???

See http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictio ... emaciation

But I'm unsure whether "arterial" fits ..........

David