Was this all one (1) Archibald Finlayson?.....

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Dennis
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Was this all one (1) Archibald Finlayson?.....

Post by Dennis » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:29 am

I have an Archibald Finlayson b c1801 - 1875.
I also have a Margaret Finlayson b c1835 - 1867 age 32 on DR
On Margaret's DR her parents are both not listed as deceased.
A check of Archibald's death puts him as a widower of Helen (nee) Johnston c1801 - 1871.
Archibald & Helen had married in 1820 according to familysearch.
When I look for offspring if archibald and Helen I get no Margaret.

When I look for Margaret Finlayson c1835 I get the following:
Margaret has parents Archibald Finlayson and Margaret Graham Davidson.
When I check for the marriage of Archibald Finlayson and Margaret Graham Davidson I get back July 12, 1816.

Am I looking at 2 different Archibald Finlayson or is he the same.

Note that Margaret's birth c1835 is after the marriage of Archibald T Helen.

Help, please.

dennis

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Post by Andy » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:29 am

While it's possible that Archibald remarried and that the mother's details were reported incorrectly on Margaret's death cert Archibald and Helen Johnstone were producing children from 1821 to 1837:

1. MARY FINDLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 FEB 1830 Skirling, Peebles, Scotland

2. HELEN FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 MAR 1828 Skirling, Peebles, Scotland

3. CHARLES FINDLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUN 1823 Kirkurd, Peebles, Scotland

4. DAVID FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 NOV 1837 Skirling, Peebles, Scotland

5. JOHN FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 JAN 1825 Skirling, Peebles, Scotland

6. JAMES FINDLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 DEC 1821 Kirkurd, Peebles, Scotland

Archibald and Margaret Davidson were producing at the same time:

1. JOHN FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 05 NOV 1832

2. JOHN FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 NOV 1832 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

3. AGNES FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 17 OCT 1825 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

4. JEAN FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 JAN 1819 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

5. AGNES FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 OCT 1825 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

6. MARGARET FINLAYSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 JUN 1835 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

You say your Archibald had died in 1875 however, noting the place of birth, this looks very possible for Helen's husband in 1881:

Dwelling: Westrow
Census Place: Biggar, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203614 GRO Ref Volume 623 EnumDist 3 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Archibald FINLAYSON W 84 M Skirling, Peeble, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Formerly General Labourer
Grace FINLAYSON U 49 F
Rel: Daur
Occ: Formerly Dressmaker
Elizabeth FINLAYSON M 26 F Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Visitor

So, on the face of it, there were two Archibalds and if you're sure that yours was married to Helen Johnstone then Margaret isn't one of yours.
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Upped Image of Margaret Finlayson's DR

Post by Dennis » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:44 pm

Andy. I've upped The image 'archibald'.

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Archibald Finlayson

Post by maggiehill » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:22 pm

Dennis

The Archibald Finlayson on the 1881 Census at Biggar was my Gggrandad.
He was christened 25 Feb 1798 at Skirling and died 4 May 1884 at East End Biggar.
His wife was Janet Marchbanks born 24 Aug 1796 and died before daughter Janet.

Children
Peter 2 Sept 1820 Skirling
James 14 April 1822 Skirling
Archibald 24 November 1823 Skirling
Marion abt 1827
Janet abt 1828 Skirling, died 27 Feb 1878 Biggar
Grace abt 1829 Skirling
Margaret abt 1830 Skirling, died 15 Feb 1915 West Linton
Maggie

Family names, Lando, Turley, Finlayson, Yeoman, Pollock, French, Renwick, Watson, Pollock, Fell, Marchbanks, Greenshields

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Post by AndrewP » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:16 pm

Maggie,

The online IGI shows christenings for 3 of your Finlaysons, plus one more (note spelling difference) to add to your list.

PETER FINLAYSON - Christening: 15 OCT 1820 Skirling, Peebles
JAMES FINLAYSON - Christening: 12 MAY 1822 Skirling, Peebles
ARCHIBALD FINLAYSON - Christening: 28 DEC 1823 Skirling, Peebles
DIXON FINDLAYSON - Christening: 05 JUL 1829 Skirling, Peebles

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by Jack » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:07 am

Hi Maggie,

This looks like another one of your family, and a bonus 1855 BC too.
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DIXON FINDLAYSON - Christening: 05 JUL 1829 Skirling, Peebles, Scotland
Father: ARCHIBALD FINDLAYSON
Mother: JANET MARJORYBANKS
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DICKSON FINLAYSON
CHRISTINA LOCKHART
Marriage: About JUL 1851 Biggar, Lanark, Scotland
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They had a number of children - the 1st three are estimated from ages in 1861, but they don't add up with the marriage year. I think the births are actually from 1851 onwards.

Ebenezer b ~1849 Lanark LKS
David b ~1851 Biggar
Archibald b ~1853 Biggar
JAMES FINDLAYSON - Birth: 23 OCT 1855 Biggar, Lanark, Scotland
CHRISTINA FINLAYSON - Birth: 30 JAN 1858 Pettinain, Lanark, Scotland
JANET MARCHBANK FINLEYSON - Birth: 10 NOV 1859 Pettinain, Lanark, Scotland
MARGARET FINLYSON - Birth: 14 DEC 1861 Pettinain, Lanark, Scotland
GRACE FINLAYSON - Birth: 20 FEB 1864 Libberton, Lanark, Scotland
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Dixon is in Biggar 1851 & Pettinain in 1861 if you would like the details at some point.

Jack
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ps - oops, just noticed Andrew's already given you Dixon!

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Post by AndrewP » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:31 am

IGI results for Dixon Finlayson.

1. DIXON FINDLAYSON - Christening: 05 JUL 1829 Skirling, Peebles
2. DICKSON FINLAYSON - Marriage: About JUL 1851 Biggar, Lanark
3. DICKSON FINLYSON - Marriage: 29 JUN 1851 Carluke, Lanark
4. DICKSON FINLAYSON - Birth: 05 MAY 1864 Biggar, Lanark
5. DICKSON FINLAYSON - Birth: 15 APR 1872 Colinton, Midlothian
6. DICKSON FINLAYSON - Marriage: 23 JUL 1874 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian

(1) Son of Archibald Findlayson and Janet Marjorybanks.
(2) and (3) Marriage of Dickson Finlayson to Christina Lockhart (banns in both parishes).
(4) Son of Archibald Finlayson and Helen Telfer.
(5) Son (a twin) of Dickson Finlayson and Christina Gilchrist.
(6) Marriage of Dickson Finlayson and Christina Gilchrist.

Work that lot out.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by marilyn morning » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:09 am

Hello Dennis & Maggie

Relative to your family research?

Finlayson, Bousfield & Co. moved to Johnstone in 1844. Then in 1880 Archibald Watson Finlayson was sent to the United States to start up a linen and thread mill in North Grafton, Massachusetts.

Flax Mills of Finlayson, Bousfield & Co. Johnstone, Scotland

J. R. Lesson selling agents of the Grafton Flax Mills, Grafton, Mass. USA

J. R. Lesson & Co.
298 Devonshire Street
Boston, Massachusetts, USA

J. R. Lesson & Co.
Linen Thread Importers

For further information on this family click onto www.archives.gla.ac.uk

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Url for archibald image.

Post by Dennis » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:04 am

This is the image for the Death Rec for Margaret Finlayson c1835-1867 from scotlandspeople.
It shows her parents still living and that they are Archibald Finlayson c1801-1875 and Helen Johnston c1801-1871. I don't know how they can be in the 1881 census.


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Archibald Finlayson

Post by maggiehill » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:36 pm

Andy and AndrewP
The Dixon Findlayson, with parents Archibald Findlayson and Janet Marjorybanks appears to be my family but the parents have the wrong surnames, should be Finlayson and Marchbanks. I have ordered a copy of the certificate to see if it has been transcribed incorrectly. But it may have answered another query I have got with my granddads John Lando’s name.

Margaret Finlayson (cannot find any documentation) daughter of Archibald and Janet had an illegitimate daughter Janet Finlayson Kerr b1852 before she married John Lando in June 1853; this daughter then had an illegitimate son John Lando Kerr born 18 Jan 1878 at Gourock Renfrewshire (the Lando’s were living at West Linton at the time).

On the 1881 Census for West Linton he was listed as John Lando, Grandson, aged 3, while on the 1891 & 1901 Census for West Linton he was listed as John Lando, son.
On his marriage certificate he is named as John Marjibanks Kerr Lando, father not named. There was a family of Marjibanks living in West Linton at the time, why he was given this middle name has always foxed me.

Margaret and John Lando also had a son named John born 4 December 1859 died 9 Sept 1879 so either John senior or John junior the father of my grandfather John Lando Kerr.

Dennis
Sorry to take over your topic, I only attached my query as we could have been searching for the same people.
Maggie

Family names, Lando, Turley, Finlayson, Yeoman, Pollock, French, Renwick, Watson, Pollock, Fell, Marchbanks, Greenshields