Help with deciphering, please.....

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Kathy
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Help with deciphering, please.....

Post by Kathy » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:00 pm

I would appreciate another opinion on the cause of death, of John Melville McNeil, I read it as being convulsions, but I'm not really sure, could someone take a look please.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-790

Kathy



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McNeil, McNeill, Craig, Orr, Mitchell, McArthur, McMillan, McGregor, Gray, Dixon, Graham, RFW, Port Glasgow, Greenock & Paisley.
Thornton, Lynch, Flood, Sexton, County Cavan Ireland.
Appleby, Cardiff, Wales,Cooke, Holder, Gloucestershire, England

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Post by joette » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:29 pm

Yes looks like convulsions to me.Did you notice there is a RCE at the side of the entry.
Under cause of death "examined body"-convulsions.
So it looks like wean was ill/fever?infection?epilepsy?went into convulsions & died.The Dr.called to confirm death & he could find no obvious reason for the convulsion.
I would apply for the certificate if I couldn't get to NRH for a look at the RCE where it may give a reason for the convulsions.
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
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Post by paddyscar » Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:17 pm

it says - examined body convulsions
John Kelly (b 22 Sep 1897) eldest child of John Kelly & Christina Lipsett Kelly of Glasgow

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Post by DavidWW » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:03 pm

When the cause of death was sudden and/or there had been no regular medical attendant prior to death, then the matter should have been referred to the Procurator Fiscal, following which there would have been an RCE entry, but this will most often only confirm the date, place and cause of death, - there might only sometimes be a wee bit more info in terms of the place or the time.

In terms of a violent death, there might be a reference to a Court of High Justiciary criminal action, or, in the case of an industrial accident, after 18?? (search on this site for "FAI" to determine the year) a reference to a Fatal Accident Inquiry by the local Sheriff-Depute, the records of which are probably held at National Archives of Scotland........

David

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Post by Kathy » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:27 pm

Thanks for the confirmation of the cause of death, convulsions.

I was aware of the notation entry, David had already explained, see thread "Coroners Report"

Much appreciated.

Kathy
McNeil, McNeill, Craig, Orr, Mitchell, McArthur, McMillan, McGregor, Gray, Dixon, Graham, RFW, Port Glasgow, Greenock & Paisley.
Thornton, Lynch, Flood, Sexton, County Cavan Ireland.
Appleby, Cardiff, Wales,Cooke, Holder, Gloucestershire, England