Birth Records After 1905

[saroho]

My mother was only 4 when her mother Euphemia Wilkins Ms Brown b.1911 and died 1934. When Euphemia died her both her parents were all ready dead,my mother was told nothing about her mother and Im wondering if Euphemia had any siblings, I think she would of been the eldest as her parents were married the same year she was born. Does any one out there have any ideas on how I could find out?

Sandra

[momat]

Sandra ,
Do you have a death Cert; for Euphemia?
That will give you her parents names and you could then try entering them on IGI for a parent search to see if there
were any siblings.

If you give some more detail I think the answers will appear from the very helpful folk here.

[saroho]

Hi Maureen,
Euphemia Wilkins parents are William Brown and Euphemia Brown MS Crossan 97 Mc Clean street Govan Glasgow is last known address.
I hope someone can help.

Sandra.

[momat]

Sandra,
On the SP 1901 Census for Govan there is one entry for a Euphemia Brown.
It may not be the right family but helps to look !
I have no credits or I would look it up for you as it may give you some leads to this family.
Hopefully some kind sole will help you here.

Cheers,

[LesleyB]

Hi Sandra
On Scotlands Preople (link at top of page) there is a marriage for a William Brown & a Euphemia Crossan in 1911 , Lanark(shire) . Looks like a possible connection - the date seems to fit with what you have above....

Finding any other births born to this couple will be too late for the on-line cut-off date of 1905. You would either need to find someone who could go to New Register House Edinburgh or Park Circus Glasgow on your behalf, or contact GROS directly:
http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/h ... flet2.html

Best wishes
Lesley

[saroho]

Hello Lesley, If I contact the GROS online will they do a search for me and if so is it very expensive?

Sandra

[LesleyB]

Hi Sandra
I think, if you scroll down, the costs are outlined in the link I gave:
http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/h ... flet2.html
Best wishes
Lesley

[DavidWW]

My mother was only 4 when her mother Euphemia Wilkins Ms Brown b.1911 and died 1934. When Euphemia died her both her parents were all ready dead,my mother was told nothing about her mother and Im wondering if Euphemia had any siblings, I think she would of been the eldest as her parents were married the same year she was born. Does any one out there have any ideas on how I could find out?

Sandra

Searching for siblings in this period, especially with a surname such as BROWN, might appear to be problematic, and problematic it can well be unless, of course, the parents stuck to the most frequently used traditional Scottish naming pattern, of ...

first son after the father's father
second son after the mother's father
third son after the father
first daughter after the mother's mother
second son after the father's mother
third son after the mother

(Note that there are a number of variants on this general traditional naming pattern!)

The relatively small pool of names in general use in Scotland can also often lead to overlaps in the sense of grandparental given names being similar to each other and to those of the parents ............... but that's a subject in itself in terms of how such a situation was handled

In this case, it's obvious that William BROWN (parents William and Martha) and Euphemia BROWN MS CROSSAN (parents Bernard and Jeannie) at very least followed the naming pattern tradition in the sense of using the parental/grandparental given names, - I haven't as yet analysed the order, there being births to this couple of ...........

Martha McMaster BROWN
Bernard Crossan BROWN
Jeannie Crossan BROWN
William BROWN

... and, given the dates of the above births, more that a good chance that there were other siblings as well........

The main lesson here, is that, especially when the surname is very common, then, don't despair , - instead, try searching on the basis of the given names predicted by the traditional naming pattern(s) .......

Sometimes, as in this case, the location will remain the same or very similar, over a period of many years, so that the births of other siblings are then that easier to locate.

In others cases, the family will often be found in the same general area, but some research may sometimes be required to determine which registration districts were coterminous (as, it happens, to the case here!), never mind the necessity of developing an understanding of the quite frequent reorganisations of registration districts that was required in many areas, not least the cities in terms of the massive influx from the country areas, as well as immigration from, mainly, Ireland, as well as the associated amalgations of rural registration districts given the related depopulation .............

David