Birth query.....

[ladybird]

Entry of Birth in the Parish of Keith in the County of Banff
#118, Albert Drake, 20th May 1886, 5pm, Broomhill Terrace, Keith, Banff
father Frederick Drake, Musician, mother Mary Drake ms Hadden. married 15th Jan 1884, Newcastle on Tyne
Informant James Taylor, MS & CM present at the confinement.
Registered 14th June 1886 at Keith, Registrar James MacDonald

I have the above from SP. This couple were actually English but moved around a lot as Fred was a violinist in an orchestra.

Does anyone have any suggestions at who/what the "MS & CM present at confinement" might mean, please?

Sylvia

[MaryB]

Hi ladybird - I did a search on google and came up with a few links -

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... ns&spell=1




C.M. - (Chirurgiae Magister), Master of Surgery.


http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/abbr.html

[DavidWW]

Entry of Birth in the Parish of Keith in the County of Banff
#118, Albert Drake, 20th May 1886, 5pm, Broomhill Terrace, Keith, Banff
father Frederick Drake, Musician, mother Mary Drake ms Hadden. married 15th Jan 1884, Newcastle on Tyne
Informant James Taylor, MS & CM present at the confinement.
Registered 14th June 1886 at Keith, Registrar James MacDonald

I have the above from SP. This couple were actually English but moved around a lot as Fred was a violinist in an orchestra.

Does anyone have any suggestions at who/what the "MS & CM present at confinement" might mean, please?

Sylvia

Sylvia

You need to stick another comma in so that it reads....
James Taylor, MS & CM, present at confinement.

In other words he was a doctor, present at some point during the confinement, if not the birth as well. "CM" is "Chirurgiae Magister", - Master of Surgery. "MS" I'm not so sure about........... is it plainly "MS" or could it be "MD"?... see my other, separate post re medical qualifications.

Davie

[ladybird]

Thanks Mary and Davie, that was quick!
Looks like it could be MB (Bachelor of Medicine)
Oh dear she must have been having a hard time.

many thanks, Sylvia
PS. I'll fix the comma

[DavidWW]

Thanks Mary and Davie, that was quick!
Looks like it could be MB (Bachelor of Medicine)
Oh dear she must have been having a hard time.

What was the status of the family, and wealth or otherwise?......

"MB & CM" or sometimes ChM is very normal, - MB = Medicinae Baccalaureus = Bachelor of Medicine

many thanks, Sylvia
PS. I'll fix the comma

Not having looked at the record, I wasn't clear if there was a comma missing on the original, or if "Present" and the rest were on different lines.

When I first read it I thought for a moment that two people, initials MS and CM were present, before I realised that it had to be the quite unusual situation where the doctor acted as the informant, - don't know if I've ever seen that before !.......

Davie

[ladybird]

I don't know about this family being wealthy?
They certainly seemed to move around a lot .... Father Frederick and sons Thomas and Albert were all violinists, family legend says a Symphony Orchestra. I don't know which one though.

Another gem from Mum is that Albert owned a Stradivarius (sp?) which he left to his nephew in his will as he and Auntie Dolly had no children.

Sylvia

[DavidWW]

I don't know about this family being wealthy?
They certainly seemed to move around a lot .... Father Frederick and sons Thomas and Albert were all violinists, family legend says a Symphony Orchestra. I don't know which one though.

Another gem from Mum is that Albert owned a Stradivarius (sp?) which he left to his nephew in his will as he and Auntie Dolly had no children.

Sylvia

Sylvia

If he owned a Strad then he was certainly able to pay for a well qualified doctor to attend his wife's confinement Stradivarius violins are currently between $25,000.00 and $200,000.00 in value...a rarer specimen, in fine condition, could bring substantially more.

Davie