Deciphering Help

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Pandabean
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Deciphering Help

Post by Pandabean » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:18 am

Just a quickie. John Rutherford and Martha Vance

Can someone tell me if it says Corporal, A.S ?(corps?) also can anyone work out the maiden name of the mother?


http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-929
Andy
[size=75]
[b]McDonald[/b]
[b]Greenlees & Fairnie[/b] (Musselburgh area)
[b]Johnston, Whitson, Whitecross, Runciman [/b] (Haddingtonshire)
[b]Rutherford [/b](Dumbartonshire, Airth & Larbert)
[b]Ross, Stevenson & Robb[/b](Falkirk)[/size]

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:48 am

Hi Pandabean
The two mothers look to me like:
Margaret Rutherford m.s. Carr (deceased)
&
Margaret Vance m.s. Crossan

Certainly looks like (Corporal, A ? ... and could be corps as you suggest, but I'm not at all sure. I'm not convinced that first letter is a "C", but it could be.... :roll:

Best wishes
Lesley

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Re: Deciphering Help

Post by Scoop » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:51 am

Pandabean wrote:also can anyone work out the maiden name of the mother?
Is the maiden name Crossan (?). I'm probably not the best person to try and help but I thought I'd give it a go.

Can't with the other bit. Sorry.
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Post by DavidWW » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:06 pm

CARR and CROSSAN both agreed.

Corporal, - Yes!
"A", - Yes!
"S", - only maybe !

And I'm far from convinced re "Corp" due to the glitch in the microfilm, based perhaps on a slip of the pen or other imperfection in the original register entry - on a visit to New Register House in Edinburgh it is possible to view the original register, and it is nearly always the case that such a problem is immediately resolved !

Alternatively, a look at the acronym section of regiments.org at http://regiments.org/regiments/abbrev.htm might assist you, but remember that there could be an initial missing "Royal" or suchlike.

David

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Post by Russell » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:11 pm

Would agree with Lesley on the maiden names but can't help at all with the bracketed occupation.
It does look like A.S. Corps but there is not enough detail left in the last bit to do more than guess. Even the S is questionable when you look at the wide variation in how he has formed 'S' for other entries.

I tried altered contrast, negative images, magnification, took glasses off, put them back on; Nothing can replace the missing line segments.

Sorry :(

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Post by Pandabean » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:15 pm

Hmmm, I looked on The NA and found three corporal Andrew Rutherfords and one of them is in the Army Service Corps. At first I thought it might have been the Argylls.


Medal card of Rutherford, Andrew
Corps: Royal Army Service Corps
Regiment No: S2/017300
Rank: Corporal

Medal card of Rutherford, Andrew
Corps: Scots Guards
Regiment No: 5157
Rank: Lance Serjeant...

Medal card of Rutherford, Andrew L
Corps: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Regiment No: 29528
Rank: Acting Corporal
Andy
[size=75]
[b]McDonald[/b]
[b]Greenlees & Fairnie[/b] (Musselburgh area)
[b]Johnston, Whitson, Whitecross, Runciman [/b] (Haddingtonshire)
[b]Rutherford [/b](Dumbartonshire, Airth & Larbert)
[b]Ross, Stevenson & Robb[/b](Falkirk)[/size]

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:19 pm

Pandabean wrote:Hmmm, I looked on The NA and found three corporal Andrew Rutherfords and one of them is in the Army Service Corps. At first I thought it might have been the Argylls.


Medal card of Rutherford, Andrew
Corps: Royal Army Service Corps
Regiment No: S2/017300
Rank: Corporal

Medal card of Rutherford, Andrew
Corps: Scots Guards
Regiment No: 5157
Rank: Lance Serjeant...

Medal card of Rutherford, Andrew L
Corps: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Regiment No: 29528
Rank: Acting Corporal
Now what did I say about the possibly missing "Royal"?

Weel done Pandabean, - and for those who may not realise it, viewing these medal card records costs a few bawbees =D> [cheers]

David