Nicholson birth

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:33 pm

Hi everyone,

Trying to find the birth of a MARY ANN NICHOLSON in Glasgow, but getting nowhere.

Her parents were RICHARD NICHOLSON and MARTHA CROSSAN.

Not sure the exact year she was born, but she's on the 1871 census as age 13. She's then mentioned in her fathers poor relief application in 1873 as age 16, and again in 1876 where her age is still 16. In the 1876 application it mentions that she's gone to America to work as a weaver. It also mentions in the applications that she was born in Glasgow.

She had a sister Esther born in 1857 and a sister Isabella born 1863 so I guess she was born in between. However can't find her on the 1861 census.

Any suggestions?

Caroline

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:10 pm

Hi Caroline,

The family can be found in the 1861 census at 347 Continued. A look at the header page shows this to be 347 Gallowgate. The parents are there with three children, none of them Mary Ann. This family group can be found by searching for 3 year old Esther.

All the best,

AndrewP

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:09 pm

Hi Andrew,

Sorry maybe wasn't very clear in my post, but I have the Nicholson family in 1861, it's just Mary Ann that I can't find as she's not with her parents or any relatives that I know of.

Thanks very much for looking though.

Caroline

Post by **SarahND** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:42 pm

Hi Caroline,

Here is an odd one:

1861
23 Tower St, Duddingston, Midlothian
Mary Ann Handyside, 62, head, born Edinburgh, Proprietor of House
Elizabeth Handyside, 28, daughter, born Inveresk, Governess
Margaret E Handyside, 25, daughter, born Inveresk
Mary Ann Nicholson, 75, granddaughter

, born Inveresk
Isabella Trumbull, 17, servant, born Penstone, East Lothian, Gen Serv

Not to say this is your Mary Ann, since the birth place is wrong, but it looks very much like the age has been mistranscribed. Hard to have a granddaughter who is 13 years older than you

And grandmother won't work either

So if anyone has access to better details on this, it might be worth a look, just in case...

Regards,
Sarah

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:31 pm

Hi Sarah,

Had a look on the IGI and this could possibly be that Mary Anns birth:

MARY ANN NICHOLSON
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 APR 1846 Inveresk With Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Father: THOMAS WILLIAM NICHOLSON
Mother: HELEN HANDASYDE

So it looks as though her age is actually 25, not 75!

Thanks for taking the time to look though Sarah.

Caroline

Post by **SarahND** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:59 pm

Hi Caroline,
Glad that's cleared up-- I knew something had to be wrong with her age! Sorry I'm not finding your Mary Ann

But it's not for lack of trying... Found a Mary Ann Williams in the US in 1880, married, born in Scotland abt 1857, a weaver... but later records seemed to indicate her maiden surname was McBride.

Oh well. Back to the drawing board. Do you have any idea where she was in America? I know, your question was about finding her in 1861, but I can't help jumping ahead

All the best,
Sarah

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:20 pm

Hi again Sarah,

Thanks for continuing the search!

I would really like to find out what happened to her in America as well as in 1861, but I'm afraid the poor relief application just said 'America' with no further clues. She must have went between 1873 and 1876 and surely she was a bit young to go on her own?

It just strange there's no birth record for her, and that she's not with the family in 1861.

Caroline

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:41 am

SarahND wrote:Hi Caroline,

Here is an odd one:

1861
23 Tower St, Duddingston, Midlothian
Mary Ann Handyside, 62, head, born Edinburgh, Proprietor of House
Elizabeth Handyside, 28, daughter, born Inveresk, Governess
Margaret E Handyside, 25, daughter, born Inveresk
Mary Ann Nicholson, 75, granddaughter , born Inveresk
Isabella Trumbull, 17, servant, born Penstone, East Lothian, Gen Serv

Not to say this is your Mary Ann, since the birth place is wrong, but it looks very much like the age has been mistranscribed. Hard to have a granddaughter who is 13 years older than you
And grandmother won't work either

So if anyone has access to better details on this, it might be worth a look, just in case...

Regards,
Sarah

This Mary Ann Nicholson is clearly just 15 !!

David

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:18 pm

DavidWW wrote:This Mary Ann Nicholson is clearly just 15 !!

That's more like it! Now if only we can get her to be just 5, we're in business...
I'll be travelling and out of internet contact for a few days now, and will hope to find this all solved when next I connect

All the best,
Sarah

karenmcc · Post by **karenmcc** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:07 am

Hi Caroline,

I see from the IGI Richard NICHOLSON and Martha CROSSAN married in 1844, do you have any of their older children from censuses? Just asking as there is a birth for a Marion (I have found Mary Ann to be interchangable with Marion in my family) Kirkland NICOLSON 19 Oct 1860 Milton, Glasgow mother Sarah NICOLSON. Mayby Mary Ann was a granddaughter they brought up as their own.

Karen McCubbin