Marriage of Helen Bruce .....

[gjones]

Looking for info. on the marriage of Helen Bruce.She was born in Wick,Caithness in 1806 and is believed to have married approx.1827.

Anything to help would be appreciated.

Gillian

[WilmaM]

Hello - Welcome to Talking Scot

The IGI at www.familysearch.org

has a :
HELLEN BRUCE
Spouse: KENNETH MILLER
Marriage: 24 DEC 1827 Wick, Caithness, Scotland
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

There is a birth for a Daughter Margaret born to this couple 07 JAN 1831 Wick,

HELEN BRUCE
Spouse: WILLIAM HENDERSON
Marriage: 30 JUN 1832 Wick, Caithness, Scotland
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

A couple [or couples] with these names had 9 children in Olrig and Bower, Caithness, between 1832 and 1846 including twins in Oct 1844

Do you have any idea who she married?

There are several births, many of them submitted entries the only 2 likely Extracted ones are:

HELEN BRUCE
Christening: 06 SEP 1810 Wick, Caithness, Scotland
Father: JAMES BRUCE
Mother: EUPHEMIA MOWAT
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record

HELEN BRUCE
Birth: 14 DEC 1811
Christening: 18 DEC 1811 Bower, Caithness, Scotland
Father: JOHN BRUCE
Mother: CHRISTIAN DURON
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Perhaps these may help?

[gjones]

Thankyou so much.The one with Kenneth Miller is what I needed.

Does any census list where they lived and how many children they had whilst in Scotland? I know that Kenneth moved to Birkenhead in Cheshire and that Helen had passed away by then(no dates for this),and that he had several children by then.

Can't thank you enough.

Gillian

[WilmaM]

hey you'll like this [ I was pretty chuffed to find it straight away]

I checked on : http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

and found this entry for 1841:

Piece: SCT1841/43 Place: Wick-Caithness Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Wick Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 4
Address: Thrumster
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MILLER Kenneth M 35 Mason Caithness
MILLER Helen F 35 Wife Caithness Surname Bruce line through then Do
MILLER Isac M 14 Caithness
MILLER Christian F 10 Caithness
MILLER Margaret F 9 Caithness
MILLER John M 7 Caithness
MILLER Janet F 6 Caithness
MILLER Helen F 5 Caithness
MILLER Alex M 3 Caithness
MILLER Kenneth M 1m Twin Caithness
MILLER Sinclair F 1m Twin Caithness

No doubt but this is your folks. As she must have given her maiden name, I noticed a few of the households roundabout there also have the wife's ms crossed out.

1851
Piece: SCT1851/43 Place: Wick-Caithness Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Wick Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Wick
Folio: 0 Page: 9 Schedule: 30
Address: Thuster
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MILLER Kenneth Head M M 46 Fisherman Caithness - Wick
MILLER Helen Wife M F 50 - Caithness - Wick
MILLER Margt. Dau U F 19 Networker Caithness - Wick
MILLER John Son U M 18 Mason Caithness - Wick
MILLER Jannet Dau U F 16 Scholar Caithness - Wick
MILLER Helen Dau U F 14 Scholar Caithness - Wick
MILLER Alexander Son U M 12 - Caithness - Wick
MILLER Kenneth Son U M 9 - Caithness - Wick
MILLER Sinclair Dau U F 9 - Caithness - Wick


FREECen doesn't have the 1861 census on line yet.
As Helen was still alive in 1851 there's a chance she lived until 1855 in which case her Death cert. would be on Scotland People [ if she died in Scotland].
I would look on SP for any of the children in the 1871 census too or some of thier marriages.
The IGI has several John and Jannet Millers marrying in Caithness trick would be knowing which may be yours?

family search also has the 1881 England census:
is this 'baby' Kenneth?

Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary REYNOLDS Head W Female 42 Lpool, Lancashire, England Boarding Hs Keeper
Benjn. ADDISON Boarder U Male 46 Cartmell, Lancashire, England Staircase Builder
Kenneth MILLAR Lodger M Male 39 Scotland Stone Mason
Louis VAUGHAN Lodger W Male 60 Towyn, Wales Light Porter

Source Information:
Dwelling 13 Bamber St
Census Place West Derby, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341887
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3705 / 66
Page Number 1

There are other likely entries for some of the other sons there too.

Freecen, Family search are free t osearch and view. Scotland's people is a pay per view site, but you do get the actual entries to download.

I do hope this has given you more to go on and lots more to search for.

[gjones]

Hi Wilma,
Thanks so much for the info.I must apologise for such a late reply,only just found it.
Will follow-up all of this,it's wonderful how quickly answers come here.

Regards,

Gillian