Great grandmother's real name problem

[LesleyB]

Hi Jean

Since his BC is freely available then there is no indication he was formally adopted by another family. If he had been I believe the original BC would not be publicly available.

Legal adoption was not introduced in Scotland until 1930 - for any child legally adopted after this date, the original birth entry is still publicly available just like anyone else's but it is stated on the entry that the child has been adopted - it is the information in the subsequent adoption register which would tell you who that child was adopted by, and the child's adoptive name which is the information not open to the public. As this birth was prior to 1930, had the child been adopted by another family there would be no indication of that on the birth entry.

Best wishes
Lesley

[JustJean]

Thanks for clarifying the adoption process Lesley! I wasn't exactly on the mark with that one. The point I'm trying to make though is that the grandad seems to have gone by the name given to him at birth. An adoption (whether formal or casual) might have found him growing up with a completely different surname. This is where I'm wondering just who the TAYLOR family was and if he'll be found living with them in 1911. So roll on 1911 Scottish Cenus....how many days til 27 Mar 2011??? 522?? Perhaps TS should install a count down for that event !

Best wishes
Jean

[nelmit]

It may be worth trying Lothian Health Board archives in case any more info is given in Jane's hospital record.

Regards,
Annette

[Currie]

According to a 1912 document in Parliamentary Papers, John Methuen Grant and Mrs. Elizabeth Grant had the address of No.3 Royal Park Place, Edinburgh. If they were at the same address in 1901 maybe the No.1 address is on the same sheet. If it is a block of flats then this info is possibly no use at all.

This book “Dr. Elsie Inglis” (1919) on Page 182 suggests the Inglis establishment of 1901 was in George Square and doesn’t seem to mention Royal Park Place.
http://www.archive.org/stream/drelsiein ... g_djvu.txt

“The Hospice grew out of the establishment of a nursing home for working women, where they could be cared for near their own homes. Through the kindness of Dr. Barbour, a house was secured at a nominal rent in George Square, and opened in 1901. That sphere of usefulness could be extended if a maternity home could be started in a poorer district Thus the Hospice in the High Street was opened in 1904. Dr. Inglis devoted herself to the work. An operating theatre and eight beds were provided.”

Alan

[Currie]

The 3 storey light coloured buildings are in Clockmill Lane. The dark 4 storey buildings with the imposing chimney stacks appear to be the back of those in Royal Park Terrace. The Google Earth marker for Royal Park Place is right on top of the building at 6 Clockmill Lane with the For Sale and No Parking signs.
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&i ... 3,,0,-8.96

This one http://www.remax-scotland.com/PublicLis ... a&Index=14

Alan

[carlineric]

It may be coincidence that your great grandmother was actually living at Royal Park Terrace. According to the Lothian Health Board Archives site the Elsie Inglis Memorial Maternity Hospital, which I assume is the Spring Gardens one, was not built until 1925. From Currie's reply it is likely that your grandfather was born at 219 High Street. The LHB article is unclear on the location between 1904 and 1925 but the article for Bruntsfield implies that at amalgamation with Elsie Inglis's Hospice they continued in separate premises.

Eric

[nelmit]

Thanks all.

Annette
There is no address for Jane on the BC. The only address is 1 Royal Park Place which I am assuming refers to Elsie Inglis Maternity Hospital but this may be a mistake as the Hospital is listed as at nearby Spring Gardens.

Was the address written under Jane's signature? I'm asking because if James was born in hospital the informant's (in this case his mother) usual address should be given.

In 1901 there were a few families at the address 33 people in total.

Regards,
Annette

[raymonda63]

Annette
The address was NOT under her signature, it was under When and Where Born.
You have confirmed that the address is a home so we can forget the Elsie Inglis connection.

A relative tonight said my grandfather had two families in Leith he would associate with, The Taylors and....The Crawfords. Now I am yet to verify this Crawford connection, my aunt may be getting some facts mixed up. We all instantly thought that Crawford was the famous bonded whisky from Leith and also there is a bridge over the railway near the football ground called Crawford Bridge but that's clutching at straws!
"Uncle" Freddie White is a mystery that may be cleared up in the 1911 Census. Was he my grandfather's uncle or his brother. Who knows?
"Granny" Taylor was an older woman who my grandfather was close to. Her family lived at Ferrier Street, which has now been demolished. All recollections are from people born post 1930. Apparently all these families moved around in slum clearances.

In a few days I should see a copy of granddad's death certificate to match up names of parents and maiden surname.

On the other side of the family a marriage was enforced by warrant in 1907 due to an unwanted pregnancy. The mother was living at a Home for Women in Lauriston and the matron and a Police Constable's wife were witnesses. I mention this as this was an official residence for a girl in trouble it seems. I can only guess what Royal Park Terrace may have been in relation to Jane White.

Thanks all for your contributions. You are saving me time and expense on ScotlandsPeople though I am still rattling up a bit of an account!

[SarahND]

"Granny" Taylor was an older woman who my grandfather was close to. Her family lived at Ferrier Street, which has now been demolished.

In case it proves relevant, in 1901 there was this Taylor family living in Ferrier St:

1901
20 Ferrier St, Leith, Midlothian
Ebenezer Taylor, 60, Head, born Kilspindie, Perthshire, Sett Maker (stone)
Jessie Taylor, 66, Wife, born Auchenbonie, Stirlingshire
Helen Taylor, 37, Daur, born Errol Perthshire, Mill Worker Wool
Thomas M Burton, 27, Lodger, born Stow, Edinburghshire, Grocers Warehouseman

All the best,
Sarah

[raymonda63]

Thanks Sarah
If my mother and aunt knew this Granny Taylor it would be between 1930 and 1945. Given that daughter Helen here is 37 she would be late 60s early 70s to my aunts ... unless there are other family members who have moved on at 1901 and may have returned later...
All I know is they lived in Ferrier Street during my mother's youth from 1930 to 1945