Cause of Death - White Rose

[tcorbet]

I accept your kind offer.

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[tcorbet]

To all of you who have provided your thoughts [and kind wishes], I have to admit that I screwed up when I started this search. Not knowing about the 'TalkingScot' forum, I made my first cry for help on one of the Message Boards on Ancestry.com. So, the mess up, is that I continue to receive creative ideas from both sources, but threading across forums obviously doesn't work. So, if any of you are interested in any of this mystery -- not mine just the topic of Causes of Death in the OPRs -- you might go there and navigate down through the geography until you hit a 'General" topic under Midlothian. If you don't do that, let me at least pass back the ideas that I have sort of by-passed here in looking to the rich literary history of Scotland and England for metaphorical, even allegorical, connotations for that entry.

Someone provided an interesting link to a ship White Rose that was fun to track down. Since I am looking for information concerning my very modest ancestry, I don't want to fall off that cliff of trying to assert the noble origins of the Corbet family, but if anyone really wants to know, when Henry I lost his son in the "White Ship" disaster [ca. 1120] , his favorite concubine, Sybil Corbet, also lost a half-brother. It's not my fault that everyone in Scotland chooses to ignore the fact that Sybil Corbet [the daughter of Henry's gal-pal] was Alexander I's Queen Consort and if anyone can take a moment to drive over to Loch Tay, you might be able excavate where she was buried on that small island just off the shore [ca. 1122].

Many thanks.

[LesleyB]

Hi tcorbet

....is that I continue to receive creative ideas from both sources, but threading across forums obviously doesn't work. So, if any of you are interested in any of this mystery -- not mine just the topic of Causes of Death in the OPRs -- you might go there and navigate down through the geography until you hit a 'General" topic under Midlothian.

The best thing to do is just provide a link to the other forum
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.b ... 08/mb.ashx
In that way all the members on here can quickly access your other post.

I am also trying to track this down through the 'TalkingScot' forum that is available if you have an account on ScotlandsPeople.

By the way, we are quite separate from Scotlands People - an account with SP is not required to be a member and post here. Scotlands People provide a link to our forum, along with a couple of other forums in their "Discussion Groups" section, but that is all.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Maisie]

I do like a nice challenge when it's snowing outside, I can't get my car out and and I've nothing else to do.

Down in the depths of Google books I found the following (hope the link works OK) Apparently the "common people" called periostitis "The White Rose" because it began with acute pain but no redness. Of course I then had to look periostitis up on Wikipedia.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rTrp ... 22&f=false

Maisie

[LesleyB]

Great find there Maisie! Well done =D>
Looks like that is the explanation.
Sounds like a pretty horrid condition though....

http://www.answers.com/topic/periostitis

Inflammation of the periosteum. It is usually an overuse injury due to severe strain at the tendon insertions where the muscle fibres or muscle tendons pull, stretch, or tear. Periostitis of the lower leg is particularly common among athletes who change from one playing surface to another, or who change techniques or equipment. Treatment includes rest, anti-inflammatories, and correction of technical or training faults. See also shin splints.

In those days possibly caused not by athletic activity but by sustained hard physical work over many years such as was usual for many people.

Could this be her in 1841 on http://www.freecen.org.uk?
Was she a widow by 1841? Or was Thomas away working?

• Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: St Cuthbert's -Midlothian Enumeration District: 37
  Civil Parish: St Cuthbert's Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
  Folio: 37 Page: 13
  Address: 15 South College Street
  
  CORBET Jane F 50 Lodging House Keeper Midlothian
  CORBET Janet F 20 Milliner Midlothian
  CORBET Helen F 15 Milliner Midlothian
  CORBET Jane F 14 Midlothian
  CORBET Alexander M 10 Midlothian

IGI confirms there was a daughter, Janet, born to the couple in Canongate in 1818 (extract) so daughter Janet above in the 1841 seems to indicate this is Jane (Mrs) Corbet who died in 1845. Also seems to be a son mentioned on IGI, Ebenezer Annan Corbet b. 1817 - but this is only as a submission, so would need to be checked.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Maisie]

Thinking about this since I posted, the description of the ailment by the author in 1831 sounds very like osteomyelitis, which was usually fatal before the discovery of antibiotics. I hasten to add I've no great medical knowledge, but I did happen to have osteomyeltis as a child in the 1960s and the acute pain but no swelling or redness suddenly rang a bell. It baffled my GP for several days. In adults it can be a complication of diabetes, or be caused by a trauma or blow to the limb which is the normal cause in children eg I fell over skating.

In which case definitely nothing anti-social!

Maisie

[AndrewP]

IGI confirms there was a daughter, Janet, born to the couple in Canongate in 1818 (extract) so daughter Janet above in the 1841 seems to indicate this is Jane (Mrs) Corbet who died in 1845. Also seems to be a son mentioned on IGI, Ebenezer Annan Corbet b. 1817 - but this is only as a submission, so would need to be checked.

Ebeneezer Annan Corbet of 1817 can be found on SP. Looks like he was in one of the parishes where the online IGI only shows the female births/baptisms.

Janet of 1818 is there too, but indexed as Corbit.

All the best,

AndrewP

[tcorbet]

My thanks to each of you who spent time researching and providing thoughtful replies. \\

As hardcore family researchers you are keenly aware of the importance that notations in 'the Family Bible' take on. So, to close out this topic, as a memorial to TalkingScot I am going to print out this thread in hard copy and insert it in the Family Bible so that ages hence, you will all receive due acknowledgment for helping centuries of Corbets to a fuller understanding of our past.