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bryoung
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RCE

Post by bryoung » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:46 pm

Hi all,

I presume RCE is short for "Register of Corrected Entries" as that what it appears to be on my Grandfather, Robert Young's death register, he was also killed in a mining incident, his details are Vol 5 "" 80 26/10/1943. Where do I need to go to access this record :?:

DavidWW
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Re: RCE

Post by DavidWW » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:25 pm

bryoung wrote:Hi all,

I presume RCE is short for "Register of Corrected Entries" as that what it appears to be on my Grandfather, Robert Young's death register, he was also killed in a mining incident, his details are Vol 5 "" 80 26/10/1943. Where do I need to go to access this record :?:
For the moment, New Register House in Edinburgh, - hopefully a TS member will be in there in the next few days, and have a look, but they will need the name, date, and GROS reference.

There should also have been an FAI, but I'm unsure if that procedure was followed during wartime.

At some point, in the hopefully not too distant future, digistised images of the RCEs will be added to ScotlandsPeople.

David

Tom-W
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Post by Tom-W » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:00 pm

It might be worth contacting the people at www.mining-villages.co.uk to see if they have any reports on these accidents (although I couldn't see anyything on the site). I found them very helpful and even if they don't have anything now, they will take the details and get back to you if they find out more later.

Tom

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:18 pm

Tom-W wrote:It might be worth contacting the people at www.mining-villages.co.uk to see if they have any reports on these accidents (although I couldn't see anyything on the site). I found them very helpful and even if they don't have anything now, they will take the details and get back to you if they find out more later.

Tom
Tom

Many thanks for picking up on that. In my still somewhat jetlagged state I knew that there was a thread somewhere with this site info, but couldn't for the life of me remember the when or where, and wasn't too motivated to go and use the TS search function in my debilitated state 8-[ :-({|=

David

PS All of which provked my laggardly grey cells into recalling that I seem to remember the director of the Scottish Mining Museum stating that they had a record of every accident ...... so try also http://www.scottishminingmuseum.com/

dww

bryoung
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Post by bryoung » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:37 am

Tom,

I have checked the site and see no reference to the incident involving my Grandfather, however, I will email them as suggested.

David,

Again, I see no reference on their website but will contact them.

The other details for the death on 19/07/1943 are
691/00 0080
Vol 5 pge 80 26/10/1943

How would I find out if there was an FAI and how would I go about accessing details :?:

Thanks for the advise so far.
Brian

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Post by DavidWW » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:12 am

Hi Brian
bryoung wrote:.............Snipped........

David,

Again, I see no reference on their website but will contact them.

The other details for the death on 19/07/1943 are
691/00 0080
Vol 5 pge 80 26/10/1943

How would I find out if there was an FAI and how would I go about accessing details :?:

Thanks for the advise so far.
Brian
The text of the RCE will either make it explicitly clear that there was an FAI, or implicitly, by use of the phrase such as "per verdict of jury" - the standard FAI procedure being for a hearing to take place in a Sheriff Court in front of a jury, - the only caveat here being any different process because it was wartime.

If there was an FAI, then it's probable the the relevant court records have been sent to National Archives of Scotland in Edinburgh. Once you have the details, email them with the references and ask for a quote for photocopies. (Always assuming that your location means that it's not easy to visit NAS.)

There may also have been coverage of the FAI in the local papers, but I have to write "may" as I'm uncertain just what would have happened during wartime.

David