Deaths with Married name but no maiden name.....

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emanday
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Post by emanday » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:21 am

True David,

Even though she died in Perthshire, the thought of a marriage elsewhere had occured to me, but nothing in showed up in IGI. I suppose it could have been an irregular marriage. If the census entry I found for 1891 is the right couple, she was 31 years younger than her 2nd husband so they might not have bothered with the formalities :roll:

Point taken Russell,

I suppose, because of what we are doing, it irks a bit that accepted practices like the "by habit and repute" marriages meant that our forebears didn't leave us the means of finding out about them.

On a positive note; Makes our successes even more exciting :lol:
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Post by Tracey » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:50 am

Hi Russell

She called herself Mrs on her childrens school records and valuation records.
The man she named herself after was the father of her youngest child b 1883 (she was more likely the house keeper with extra duties) or the father of her 2nd child, they both had the same sir name :shock: and it looks like she left there when pregnant. We can find her more or less every year since and up to her death and the death of her youngests father 1899. Its only on these records she calls herself Mrs - no where else. She had four illigitimate children found to date and his was the shortest sir name....................... :D
Definitly no Irregular marriage with this one to any of the four fathers.

But just out of interest........if someone did have an irregular marriage how would an "irregular" spouce be noted on their death certificate ?
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by Russell » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:12 pm

Hi Tracey

Irregular marriages were more to do with offending the Established Church by not following their practices and ceremonies.
A couple living together, accepted by their community, could be legally considered married and would offer that relationship when registering a partners death.
Scots law is different from English law, which is why some Bills can take a long time to get through Parliament. they have to be written out twice to conform to Scots law as well.
The position of women in Scots law has always been different too and inheritance rights reflect this.

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Post by DavidWW » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:04 pm

Tracey wrote:.........snipped.............
But just out of interest........if someone did have an irregular marriage how would an "irregular" spouce be noted on their death certificate ?
In the eyes of Scots Law they were married, so that it was perfectly acceptable for the death register entry to refer to the spouse in the normal format of "Married to/Widow[er] of ...................."

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Post by carmentea32 » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:00 pm

this might explain why I have never found the marriage of several of my ancestors ...